FAW V2 Owner's Review

[umairalizafar]

I have a V2, 2015 April model, 48k driven. I only go to the dealership for oil change. If there is some small issue, which is there in all types of cars, I get it resolved on oil changes. The cabin noise that you claim will make someone deaf is not making people deaf for ages in Pakistan, in the case of Mehran and Old Cultus. It is not a new thing in Pakistan. V2 is better than those two cars at least, in terms of cabin noise. I wonder if you have ever driven it or are making these claims based on false pretexts. V2 is a sturdy car, much better than PakSuzuki's offerings, and I say that having kept Suzukis in the past, apart from Toyotas.

V2 is more reliable than the PakSuzuki offerings, as I have mentioned above as well, may be you didn't read that. It has not had any issues the likes of which are seen in Suzukis, like rust and oil leak in new cars. This type of problems are big problems, that can get you stuck somewhere. V2 will NOT let you down, as I have mentioned earlier as well, I know of people who have driven it for more than 175k kms, and it is still running strong. Can't imagine the condition of a Suzuki after this much mileage.

So yes, you are reinforcing what we were already talking about. People who ASSUME things about this car, because of it's lesser price than the competition, especially those who HAVEN'T DRIVEN it ever, are always ready to proclaim that it is a failure. This type of people are the reason our auto sector is like this, because we have such illogical beliefs. Cars all over the world are produced in lesser price than Pakistan and with better quality and more features. The only reason it is not like that here in Pakistan is because of people who think like that.

[favadkhan]

Hi there is a reason why the cars have resale in the end as complete package determines the overall experience of car ,I dont ridicule you or any one i respect your decision and wish you safe and trouble free journey but this is a long process we are talking about ,In case of FAW debate continues and only thing which can be in favour of FAW is actual number sold and experience of people like yours and some others who have negative thoughts , betting my 1.2 Mil on something which has issues small or big is a big thing to ask specially from a nation who has per capita of 1500 US$ per annum . So having asked to respect your opinion you should also respect others point of view for healthy discussion , It is not your word against mine the decent platform will make its space eventually as we still import 33% cars so one should ask why FAW wasn't able to take that number means some 90,000 cars FAW can sold easily to consumers to Pakistan if they manage their products according to expectations

[dwb1986]

I will again say it's the failure on FAW part that they don't have their dealerships in all major cities like Hyderabad, Gujrat, Quetta, Okara etc. That's the reason why people have to believe on 'suni sunayi baatain'. I would have certainly made a visit to the dealership if it was in my city to see the car from own eyes and examine it according to my preferences.

[alam2632]

One more thing is that Al-Haj FAW should introduce at least a car in sedan segment in price range 1.4-1.7 Mil. that'll really help'em gain popularity and most importantly 'trust'! I'm hoping to see something new from Al-Haj FAW in a year or so.

[umairalizafar]

You have dodged my question completely. Have you driven the car?

The whole package thing you are talking about doesn't hold water. Mehran is being sold with issues so grave, since the past 30 years. What complete package is that offering? How can you say that the cars which our market chooses are good, when we have constantly chosen obsolete and unsafe cars for the past 3 decades? While you talk about issues, let me know about the issues as well, because I don't face any. I just mentioned the issues in wagon r, which is selling despite of them, and despite the fact that it is sold at almost twice the price it has in the neighboring country, after accounting for currency difference.

I am sorry but your argument is lame. Why would a nation with only 1500 USD of per capita income buy a Mehran for 8k USD and a wagon r for 11500 USD when they can get a better car in 11000 USD? All the points u r bringing to the discussion have already been discussed in this very forum time and again, and the same arguments u r coming forward with have been accepted as being incoherent in earlier discussions in the same forum.

And as u haven't driven this car, and haven't been able to pinpoint the issues that u r talking about, I would consider that u r here just to create a bad name for a new entrant as has happened in the past. I mean Mitsubishi, Hyundai and kia failed in Pakistan while they r world class carmakers and succeed everywhere, and u r telling me that it is because they don't give the full package, which Suzuki provides.

Decent platforms don't make their space here in Pakistan, because people ASSUME things about those products and say that I don't want to bet my million on a safer and better equipped car but would spend more on a car with less safety and less features, because of whatever superstitious belief I have about that car. And I am saying people assume these things because this forum is full of people who talk about things they don't know anything about. So pardon me if every once in a while I get fed up of such acts.

And while we are at it, let me clarify that decisions, opinions and choices, if criticized, don't mean that the person is being criticized.

[umairalizafar]

In that case, people in Lahore should have bought this car without believing in suni sunayi baatein. Why do people buy JDMs? They don't have dealerships at all. It is all in the head, unfortunately. People who want to buy a car will find an excuse to buy it. Those who don't want to buy it, will find an excuse to not buy it. It's that simple.

[umairalizafar]

In other news, Suzuki has increased prices again. Wagon R VXL is now 1164k, cultus VXR is 1270k and swift is 1405k for manual.

[favadkhan]

Why you are saying and try to fight ,Calm down we cannot continue if the discussion will lead to judging people ,what i see is no facts means if FAW was so good the numbers speak for themselves infact last PAMA data FAW even did not provide actual sales number for 2017 .Irony is you are not helping your cause or argument by putting blames on others ,Yes i have not drive FAW but i also didn't drive Wagon R and Cultus but no one is bashing Wagon R /Cultus for cabin noise .Its not accidental ,Im not paid or directed against FAW i encourage healthy competition infact i was thinking of buying but understanding various reviews and comments it changes my mind and i guess we have to give it more time to prove metal or perhaps 2nd hand in decent condition is better offer .Calm down as i feel we will not be able to communicate further

[DeViL_UnLeAsHeD]

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You lack a lot of information. FAW is not a part of PAMA as it is dominated by the Japanese And they do not encourage any new comer. Secondly, their plant is quite small in terms of production capacity as compared to other old players and FAW’s plant is running on almost 100% capacity. There are around 15000 FAW light vehicles running on roads in a span of around 4 years. Give them some encouragement for standing against the looters who have been playing with us with delivery tines of more than 6 months. They have 19 3S Dealers Nationwide almost in every city, Hyderabad and Nawabshah’s are coming up in next few months. Even Honda doesn’t have a Dealer in Quetta.

Just do not degrade the vehicle just for the sake if it or just because you don’t like it.

Just look at the prices of Suzuki cars and then compare the value if what your are getting from V2

[ipkiji]

Array Wah Devil_Unleashed, Ye hui na mardon wali baat. Chup karawa dia saray haters ko, New FAW Dealerships in each city a very positive sign.....

[favadkhan]

PAMA stands for Pakistan Auto mobile Association and all automakers ,rickshaw ,bike makers irrespective of makers are members of them ,Its a good start 15000 units in 4 years but Market size is 90,000 imported cars per year so opportunity missed by FAW was 345,000

[pwuser148474567274]

Ok .....FAW V2 haters or paid content writers ( that includes @favadkhan. ..may be or maybe not)...listen i was the one who raised complaint on cabin noise.....now dont take advantage of discussions in between V2 owners and try to create or mold public opinion.....how the hell can u talk about a car if you have not driven it......sonay pe suhaga aap ne to cultus aur wagon r bhi nahi chalai........Bhai jan i complained about cabin noise because i am driving a Gli for the past one year...and its my bad that maybe in the hindsight i am comparing it with a corolla which is twice the price ......i happened to sit in a wagon R (passenger side)......and its a rip off i tell you......what is this crap company pak suzuki giving u in this price ??????.....i value safety ( ABS / airbags) and other things offered by V2.....so if ....i am bound to buy another new car in the same price range its going to be a V2 again not the junk paksuzuki is offering at absurd prices......and that would be my advice to whosoever needs to buy a car in this lower price bracket (i even dont want to use the name pak with suzuki as to what they have been doing to the people).......I can bear this slightly annoying engine noise in the cabin but suzuki is out of my list of cars now ....if they donot improve their products (this is coming from a person who has owned a cultus snd alto vxr in the past for almost seven years).....they have been looting us since there was no competition......this company will die its own natural death keeping in view the competition that will come from other players down the road, courtesy the new auto policy........

[pwuser148474567274]

You should be unbiased in your opinions.....how can you not support a new entrant in the market.....it boggles my mind......do you think suzuki has good resale because of their extra ordinary after sales ????....pls dont misguide people who come to these forums in order to seek opinions for their decision making.....Sir suzuki has good resale. .....since its in the market for last 20 + years and offering the same basic worthless stripped cars for the past so many years ...thus due to localization of spares....zara nai cultus aur swift ke genuine parts pata karain...they are more expensive than V2. ...
most of all SUZUKI had no competition. ...whatever meager competition they had was not offering as ....much as V2....

[pwuser148474567274]

Ok now talking ONLY to V2 owners....guys the engine is 1.3 L ( unlike 1.0 L in a wagon r, cultus and F1.0 vitz) and placed closer to you distance wise if you compare it with a city or corolla....since V2 is sucompact hatch...so naturally the noise nuisance will be more...i get that.....so if anyone has experimented with sound deadening pls let me know.....i know you guys are not much bothered by this engine noise issue. ....but it does bother me at times...specially when i floor the car.....a quieter car is more of a personal preference to me but if the alternate is suzuki junk in this price range......then i can very well live with it.....the cabin of a suzuki might be a bit quieter because of a smaller capacity engine and may be better firewall noise insulation..
..but there is where the advantages end.....rest of the car from handling to safety to value added features is piece of crap in my opinion.......

[favadkhan]

Oh bhai Mubarak ho app ko FAW V2 ,Jaan app Chur do mere to

[pwuser148474567274]

And this i say after personally experiencing the car. ( wagon R)...the driver was so cautios while driving it....that i decided not even to give it a go myself, inspite of the offer...it was just not worth it.....no disrespect to owners of Wagon R.....whatever my choices are i honour their choice...after all its their money whichever way they want to spend it...but i really think freelancers or wannabe opinion makers , market manipulators should be discouraged at all costs

[pwuser148474567274]

Thanks alot @favadkhan for the mubarakbad and dont take things personal........first go drive the cars you are opinioning about or at least sit in them....and then try to be an opinion maker....good night

[umairalizafar]

I asked around for it, when I hadn't got the door rubbers from the company. Entertainment on wheels does sound deadening in Lahore, they gave me an estimate of 35-40k for the floor, door panels and firewall, basically the whole car. There were people who were getting their civics treated, so I assumed they were good. But one thing they couldn't tell me was the weight that it will add to the car, and any estimates on the impact on fuel economy.

After I got the door rubbers from the dealership, I abandoned, or u can say postponed the idea. There was a significant difference in the noise. I still think that I should try getting complete door rubbers like that in swift, sometime. If i have too much money to spare, then I will go for sound deadening as well. Until then, I am alright with it. I don't feel the noise to be a problem.

I should add that the matts they were showing me were of professional quality, and looked like they will do the job well. However, they also had a significant weight, as was expected of them. Combined, my own estimate is that they will add around 50 kg of weight to the car. The matts for the floor were heavier than the ones for the door panels, for obvious reasons.

[umairalizafar]

My friend, don't you see the ridiculousness of the situation? You have not driven any of the cars we r talking about, especially the one you are criticizing. How can we have a discussion like this? Here, most people are owners of this car. They have kept this car for years and know the ins and outs of it, and you are trying to impose your opinion on them, without driving the car ever. Of course you will get a backlash.

As @DeViL_UnLeAsHeD mentioned, FAW is not a member of PAMA. I have also stated earlier that V2's sales in Lahore are around 80-100 units per month, as per my estimate. And this is not the only vehicle being sold by AHFM. They are selling the carrier and the xpv, which have already dented Suzuki's market. They are selling heavy vehicles as well and captured a significant market. They are not going anywhere. They are here to stay and have got a foothold in the market already. FAW itself is not a small group. It is established since 1953 and has JVs with Audi, VW and Toyota in China. Which means that the vehicles of these manufacturers are made in FAW factories in China.

I would say it again, you are talking about issues which you yourself don't know about, then how can you say that this car is lacking behind Suzuki or something like that? I have driven V2 and the Suzuki offerings. I did thorough research before buying it. It is measurably much better than the Suzukis we r getting here in this price range.

[pwuser148474567274]

Thanks alot @umairalizafar