Frustrated with Life in Karachi

[Rahat083144]

I can imagine, but in my experience Karachi has gotten much worse. Having driven in Karachi mostly, I was posted to Islamabad about a decade back. I used to freak out if I had to go to Pindi, because of its traffic. But now, I made a cross country trip last year and stayed in many cities in Punjab as I have relatives there. Never once did I feel out of my comfort zone anywhere, but in Karachi even a 5 minutes drive is a pain - and I live and drive mostly in DHA.

[Xulfiqar]

if traffic concerns you - I hope you never drive in any metro city of any other country either. Getting stressed from driving is useless as its part of life.

I used to drive a lot in Karachi, and used several vehicles, including motorcycle, car, pickup truck and also a private loading ricksha LOL.

When I visited back in 2015 - I didnt find it too bad either.

[Rahat083144]

I agree that I'm over sensitive about it. Having said that, even Karachi of 2015 was way better - back then I used to drive from Jauhar to Clifton everyday. Now even DHA to Clifton drive would be a pain, due to 'free for all' reasons mentioned by @basitali87 in his post.

[Xulfiqar]

try driving somewhere like kampala or seeta (Uganda) or bulawayo (Rhodesia)

[TypeA]

take a stop over in ankara / cairo / khartoum ride a taxi and check the city. Pakistan Metro cities will be like Jannat in terms of traffic attitude of police and other road users. a 2019 trip to nairobi gave me taste of karachi rawalpindi lahore traffic. Road rage & driver egos' at cloud 7

In terms of traffic Helsinki, Finland and Stockholm Sweden are great. London is pure stupid with roundabouts

[VCheng]

London is pure stupid with roundabouts

For a truly dizzying experience, try navigating Swindon's magic roundabout. :D:

[Xulfiqar]

yeah man - been there - holy cow, its like someone was tripping on LSD when they penned it.

[Xulfiqar]

aah - khartoum traffic

Id rather appoint a leopard to do a lobotomy..

[saboor73]

Karachi is pure love, born in siyala lived some time in Lawhore and settled in Karachi saw almost all side of Pakistan from pekhawar to Balochistan areas

The problem is people who are fraustrated, arent fraustered with anything but their life.

People who hate traffic are either "level k dehati" or dont know what metropole city means, like just take your smart phone out check google map and check best time zone to move , Although the signal freeness of Karachi always made sure that I with slight advantage of open patch meet up with delayed time

Someone said that they couldnt find parking lol there are parking meter everywhere across globe for a reason that charge you so much that people find uber cheaper than parking, problem is frausted people just complain, someone facing same thing in "amerika" introduced uber services like foodpanda and what not

Failures can only complaint like someone (in this case a whole city) owe them something (like wo hi sara nizam chalarahe ho),people with brain actually do something about it

Sorry if someone finds this offensive but seeing this thread for quite a while and although I think it goes against pw policies but traffic aaraha hoto sab chalta hai

[paladin]

move to bahria karachi if moving somewhere else is a headache.

Are you serious? Bahria Town Karachi is a big scam of Asia. I can name a ton of people including my maternal uncle who has lost his 1 crore on a plot. I always wanted to move there. BUT things like this makes me skeptical. That place is NOT recommended.

Full gamble, some succeed and some lose their hard earned money.

[capsat]

Frustrated & Confused about Karachi are only non-rooted, non-residents, non-locals, visitors, students at dorms, temporarily stationed govt / semi govt employees in govt accommodation for few years etc etc.

such views are insignificant to be least bothered about

[anon35615524]

Rightly said and totally agreed.

Previously, there used to be open advertisements in newspapers, however now, since long, at least I haven't seen any of their projects launched in newspapers, with prices, sizes, etc. mentioned. The apartment building project recently launched in Karachi was an exception, as its advertisement was there in the newspapers. Otherwise, all is dependent on selected dealers.

Bahria town is also just like a fake stock exchange. First the dealers sell plots to the general public, on own / premium. Then, news are spread in the market that Bahria Town is going down. It creates panic, and people sell their plots in loss. These dealers again buy them on less price (even less than the launched price), and after some time, again floated in the market for selling.

some succeed and some lose their hard earned money.

Its not just with Bahria Town, rather many other field too (property dealing, cars dealer, workshop / garage, etc.)

[paladin]

Real estate dealers dwell on truck containers, what to expect? They can just scam a bunch of ppl and evacuate overnight with ppl’s money.

I visited there in 2015 when the Grand Mosque and their spinoff of ”Disney Land” was still being constructed.

Man, that place is hypnotic. It made me want to move there in a heartbeat. I even persuaded my father that we should move to Bahria Town Karachi. However, after coming across a bunch of victims that were scammed from the estate dealers. We kinda dropped the idea.

Although, my cousins’ fraternal uncle who currently resides in Switzerland has bought two plots, (I don't know which area as there are quite a few), he didn't face any scam, so he was lucky, I guess.

My maternal uncle bought two plots there, one out of two was a scam and lost his 1 crore (probably more).

It sucks how a nice place like that has gone in vain. I will visit it again just to see how things are in the future.

[anon35615524]

And as far as traffic situation is concerned, I think, there is difference between "Betahasha traffic" (as in big cities of developed countries abroad, Shanghai and Beijing, my personal experiences), "Behungum traffic" (in most cities here), and "Bethasha Behungum traffic" (as in Lahore, Karachi, etc.), and "Behungumpunn" may not be taken as yardstick of development of any city, or city to be Metropolitan / Cosmopolitan.

Overall, one thing is for sure, life is too fast in Karachi.

[saboor73]

Real estate dealers dwell on truck containers, what to expect? They can just scam a bunch of ppl and evacuate overnight with ppl’s money.

I visited there in 2015 when the Grand Mosque and their spinoff of ”Disney Land” was still being constructed.

Man, that place is hypnotic. It made me want to move there in a heartbeat. I even persuaded my father that we should move to Bahria Town Karachi. However, after coming across a bunch of victims that were scammed from the estate dealers. We kinda dropped the idea.

Although, my cousins’ fraternal uncle who currently resides in Switzerland has bought two plots, (I don't know which area as there are quite a few), he didn't face any scam, so he was lucky, I guess.

My maternal uncle bought two plots there, one out of two was a scam and lost his 1 crore (probably more).

It sucks how a nice place like that has gone in vain. I will visit it again just to see how things are in the future.

Real estate is scam in Pakistan right from 1960s when Monkey named Ayub Khan got into power this was the time DHA became housing society.

And Army became property dealer "DHA mai plot becho Askari mai cinema kholo aur do char builders k sar per hath rakhdo"

[Xulfiqar]

Bahria has took money and changed allocation of lots/plots - because the land they are building on is either wrongly owned or is part of some riverbed or is just not leased from the govt at all.

And Bahria never give you true ownership of the land either, I asked about this specifically from an agent selling the bahria manjann very hard - he replied that its not their policy. LOL

[vtecyo]

Ok i see, DHA gives true ownership of land?asking for info

[anon35615524]

YES. As far as I know, DHA gives the ownership of land.

[Taimur92]

Yes, DHA gives 99 year lease whereas Bahria only gives an 'allotment certificate' that it makes itself.

[paladin]

So for a big project like Bahria Town Karachi, there is no future? What about those who claims that they have bought it successfully?