Honda City 1997 Exi Saloon second hand issues

[azharalig2]

I recently baught Honda Citu 97 model, but after buying I have already spent about 90,000-95,000 PkRs and still it has issues like starting the car. The mechanic said that there is a need to replace Engine and electrical wiring needs to be done again which is again 50,000 to 60,000 PkRs at least. Please guys share your experiences with me or suggest any good mechanic in Multan. Where to buy good condition engine with at least 6 months warrantee?

[iqbalu140]

I would advise against an engine swap at this time. It's better to get your engine fully overhauled with brand new OEM Japanese parts.
The startup issue you mentioned, is it on a dead cold engine or after driving when engine reaches operating temperature? This might be your fuel pump

[azharalig2]

Don't you think getting engine fully overhauled will cost a lot of money? The engine is not the original one, it was already replaced 10 years back with 1600 cc (original 1300 cc).
Secondly, yes this is true that engine heats up cause this issue often (once it caused on cold engine also) but I have spent money without proper success.
Anyway thanks for your advice! and looking forward for more!
Also let me know how to sell this car?

[iqbalu140]

I have a 2004 civic exi prosmatec. Before the COVID-19 outbreak, the stock D15Y3 engine was costing me 45,000, now it's well over 50-60K. Adding to this
1) I wont know it's compression
2) How many kms it has covered
3) If it was ever decently maintained
4) What kind of parts were used for its maintenance (pakistani,Chinese,Japanese)
And so on. And I decided for an overhaul, with maximum brand new OEM Japanese parts. This is costed me around 40,000 (labor included)
With an overhauled engine, atleast you will have an ease of mind, that no jugars will be made, everything will be brandnew, and that your engine will be like new for atleast 10 years.
Why spend a potential 100K for a "new" engine and more for its repairs, when you can save half of the amount, and spend half of the amount back into your vehicle to bring it back into life.?

Also, is your fan auto or direct? Does it have the thermostat valve installed? And are you using water or proper coolant in your radiator? And what grade oil are you using, XW-XX?

But otherwise, the money is yours. Spend it wisely.

[azharalig2]

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Yes, now I absolutely agreewith you, an overhaul is better option. It might be possible that the mechanic wants to save his time while earning the same amount. The fan is direct and when the ignition is off we need to turn the fan off from the nob. Thermostat was installed but broken so got it repaired. I am using water as a coolant. For oil I am not sure the grade but it costed me around 2400 PkRs.
Looking forward for more advice!

[iqbalu140]

Get the thermostat changed asap, have your electrician make the fan auto. If your engine doesn't reach it's operating temperature, it will do more harm in the long run. When your pocket allows you, flush your rad, get it serviced, and use Caltex coolant.
Aksar mechanics ka commission hota hai with scrap engine dealers, so avoid engine swaps, khas tor pe in a time like this.
And when you travel on a long route, and you start your car, does it take a long self to start?
And use 5w30 fully synthetic oil in your car, it won't put too much load on your engine, and will prevent the engine wear and tear on cold start. Use Total Quartz 9000 5W30 paired with OEM oil filter. Or you can use PSO oil 5W30.

[azharalig2]

Thanks for your suggestions!
Well I only went three times on long drive (from Multan to Taunsa) and it was full of adventures in terms of car usage. Once, the engine got heated and we had to stop twice. Then the generator stopped working and we with the family were stuck half way back to Multan.
One more thing: The mechanic is also suggestion to get car wiring re-done and the electrician asked me for 18,000 PkRs for overall electrician work. Please suggest if I need to get it done? and also the price is OK?
What do you think selling this car with a loss of 30,000 and buy a small engine car wouldn't be a good idea? or getting this car repaired will be a good option. I asked this because I live abroad and baught used car which has never troubled me and running smoothly. This car in Multan, I will only use 3-4 months and sell it before going abroad.

[iqbalu140]

I can't say about the electrician and his skills, but 18000 is wayyy too much imo. Shouldn't be more than 10,000 imo.
And why exactly are you wanting to sell this car and buy a small engine vehicle? Is it because of fuel or what?

[azharalig2]

OK!
I want to sell because I baught this for my family and ever since I baught it the car has spent more time in workshop than driving. I am afraid if I get it repaired, even overhauling engine, the car will function properly or not ?? I am not sure! I nearly spent at least 7 full days in the workshop, which costed me Typhoid for 10 days and also I want to drive peacefully. You can imagine my feelings when it stops when I am driving with my small kids in the hot sun !
My friend told me that small cars don't have much problems and troubles.

[iqbalu140]

Oh yes. I can totally imagine the situation. Garmi tou bhia, katilana hai🤣🤣.
But imo,
Get your ac serviced
Engine overhauled
Radiator serviced and use coolant
Dont worry about the suspension right now.

It's your choice if you want to buy a small car, oske liye bhi you'll need to add up like more than 200-300K for a decent car which will be forgiving in terms of maintenance.

[azharalig2]

Many many thanks for your suggestion!
I will write you again if there is any other questions.

[iqbalu140]

Sure man!

[azharalig2]

Should I get it overhauled from official Honda workshop?

[iqbalu140]

They'll overcharge you. Let other senior members guide you better. @capsat can you recommend him a workshop?

[azharalig2]

AOA brother,
Now I came up with some other questions, I hope you can give me more guidance!
Firstly, many thanks for your reply. Now that I wanted to sell this car, I am having a huge trouble with the chasis number plate. The number plate has rust and no dealer (in Multan) is willing to buy it. It has been very stressfull 10 days for me.
1. Is there any way (other than olx) to sell this car?
2. Can I apply to excise and custom office to get permission to repair or change this number plate?
3. For me, I am afraid that my car can't travel long distances, so coming to Lahore looks impossible.
4. Should I buy a new/old engine for this car, where I can buy authentic one? After spending 2 months with the stress I am not so fed up with the mechanics here.
Thanks in advance!

[AkbarGr8]

Very sorry for the position that you're in. Looks like someone sold you a lemon that no one else was willing to buy.

I hope someone can guide you on the chassis plate issue but please park this vehicle and do not spend any more money on it.

Sell it ASAP and buy the newest possible small car that you can afford.

Good luck!

[iqbalu140]

1) try posting the ad on olx and pakwheels as well. Zaruri nahi hai ke aap dealer ko gaari sell kardo.
2) I'm not so well informed but jo dusri number plate hogi, ospar Duplicate likha hoga, and buyers MA ajeeb hain. Lekin something is better than nothing.
3) There's always hope. If you're willing to take risks. Have your radiator changed, inspect the cooling system (replace if needed), get a compression test done- to know the health of the engine.
4) Buying another car is always an option, but i think you should take the risk and invest money back into this car (Engine swap/overhaul- transmission too if it's bad).

[azharalig2]

Thank you brother for your detailed answer. Yesterday, my car has been finally sold out. Now I can buy another up model car. Most probably, City, Baleno or Cultus because my budget is below 7 lacs.
Stay safe and blessed!

[AkbarGr8]

Thank God! Whatever car you end up buying, please have it thoroughly inspected prior to purchase.

BIG no to mayyats that require substantive engine / suspension / body work.

[pwuser158913575038]

Bro. Efi gari len. Behtar hoga.