Honda Civic 7th Gen. Fan Club

[sfaisal_saeed]

[quote="cypher_001, post:1082, topic:184235, full:true"]

Salam, I have a question and hope fellow members will guide me. I have Civic 2005 EXi 140k driven. I noticed its RPM at 120 is 38000 or 39000. is it ok or something wrong happening to my car? moreover, when should I god for gear box overhauling? i mean is it necessary at 150k as my car have no issue in gears or engine.

Hoping for better guidance.

Regards,

Wa Salam, though I am not an expert but having RPM of 3800 / 3900 at speed of 120 KM/hr seems very much reasonable, i am getting almost the same on my Civic 2005 EXi Prosmatec - if you have the manual tranny i think you should have a better RPM as you have got 5th forward gear as well whereas in Prosmatec there are only 4 forward gears, regarding gear box overhauling, i dont think there is some hard n fast rule to do that until it slips some gears or create some sound or leak some fluid. Just get the Honda MTF replaced after certain mileage as per manual.

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Thanks bro for your clarifications. BTW from where I can get PVC Trunk tray for my 7th gen civic in Rwp/Isb, plz.

[cypher_001]

Salam, I have a question and hope fellow members will guide me. I have Civic 2005 EXi 140k driven. I noticed its RPM at 120 is 38000 or 39000. is it ok or something wrong happening to my car? moreover, when should I god for gear box overhauling? i mean is it necessary at 150k as my car have no issue in gears or engine.

Hoping for better guidance.

Regards,

Wa Salam, though I am not an expert but having RPM of 3800 / 3900 at speed of 120 KM/hr seems very much reasonable, i am getting almost the same on my Civic 2005 EXi Prosmatec - if you have the manual tranny i think you should have a better RPM as you have got 5th forward gear as well whereas in Prosmatec there are only 4 forward gears, regarding gear box overhauling, i dont think there is some hard n fast rule to do that until it slips some gears or create some sound or leak some fluid. Just get the Honda MTF replaced after certain mileage as per manual.

Thanks bro for your clarifications. BTW from where I can get PVC Trunk tray for my 7th gen civic in Rwp/Isb, plz.

Any time bhai, i really don't know from where we can find it, in fact i am searching for that thing too - MashAllah trunk of my car is in absolutely genuine condition and i want to keep it genuine so want to place PVC Utility tray there in trunk but no luck so far.

P.S. Seniors / other members can you please advise from where the Utility PVC Trunk tray can be found from ISB / RWP for 7th Gen Civic?

[HellsGuardian]

manual civic has high rpms in relation to speed. my vti in 5th gear has 3k rpm at 100kmph and near 4k when 12

[sfaisal_saeed]

[quote="adilfarid, post:1081, topic:184235, full:true"]

Salam, I have a question and hope fellow members will guide me. I have Civic 2005 EXi 140k driven. I noticed its RPM at 120 is 38000 or 39000. is it ok or something wrong happening to my car? moreover, when should I god for gear box overhauling? i mean is it necessary at 150k as my car have no issue in gears or engine.

Hoping for better guidance.

Regards,

In exi, rpm should be around 3000-3100 at 120 kmph. 3800-3900 is very high

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Dear any guidance what cod be the cause and wat is its remedy?

[sfaisal_saeed]

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Nice beauty, dear one thing I have noticed that rear of car is lil bit high, did u put spacer or changed the shocks? because I have 2005 EXi and I changed its rear shocks (kabli) some 3 years back as they were weak, but after changing them my car lifted lil more at its rear as if i put spacer on it, I dont know y its too high.

[arsalaanali89]

AoA .. so i was having fluid leakage issue from Power Steering Pump, just as an opinion visited Aqaash today, he recommended to replace the SEALS n the leakage will be stopped so i got it done through him, took an hour or so, his guy Faheem who also work for Honda I-9 serviced all of the pump, replaced seals, flushed PSF n poured Honda PSF, i urged Aqaash if i have to replace the PSP n go for Kaabli but he guaranteed n was confident that replacing seals n servicing the pump should get the job done .. total cost of service + seals + Honda PSF bill = Rs. 2500/-

Now up coming works would be

1. Getting rid from Shell Helix 20W-50 to 10W-40 (though Aqaash asked me to go for Honda 10W-30).







2. Installing NGK stock plugs (mentioned in Honda manual) - Current ones are Denso (not sure about exact part number).

Doing all of the exercise for better mileage, which is currently between 8 - 9 KM/L (with hyper miling n extremly low foot)

P.S. I have 2005 EXi Prosmatec ... any tips from seniors please .. would be highly obliged.

Shell isnt the best of oils. If you can source Liqui Molly it would be good, otherwise settle with Zic. As far as the oil grade is concerned, dont jump from shell 20w-50 to 10w-30, might cause you problems straight away as shell 20w-50 is quite viscous oil. Over time your piston rings and seals adjust to the thicker oil and may start leaking oil if you shift to a thinner grade. 10w-40 is good enough for a car over 120k plus on the odo.

Both NGK BKR5E and Denso K16 are recommended as per Honda manual. However if you're running cng as well, you might as well have to settle for a colder spark plug, like NGK BKR6E or Denso k20. Use high octane alongwith the regular premium fuel and enjoy the ride. I have a vti oriel pros, giving around 10.3km / lit (without ac in KHI city) on petrol and around rs. 4.9 / km on CNG.

Please elaborate what do you mean by "settle for a colder spark plug" what is the difference between BKR5E and BKR6E and why would latter perform better on CNG

The numeral in the plug's variant like BKR5E or BKR6E shows the heat rating of the NGK spark plug. As per the recommendation of NGK, for CNG fuel we need colder spark plugs, meaning honda recommends BKR5E so we can settle with BKR6E or equivalent

[HellsGuardian]

[quote="arsalaanali89, post:1088, topic:184235, full:true"]

AoA .. so i was having fluid leakage issue from Power Steering Pump, just as an opinion visited Aqaash today, he recommended to replace the SEALS n the leakage will be stopped so i got it done through him, took an hour or so, his guy Faheem who also work for Honda I-9 serviced all of the pump, replaced seals, flushed PSF n poured Honda PSF, i urged Aqaash if i have to replace the PSP n go for Kaabli but he guaranteed n was confident that replacing seals n servicing the pump should get the job done .. total cost of service + seals + Honda PSF bill = Rs. 2500/-

Now up coming works would be

1. Getting rid from Shell Helix 20W-50 to 10W-40 (though Aqaash asked me to go for Honda 10W-30).














2. Installing NGK stock plugs (mentioned in Honda manual) - Current ones are Denso (not sure about exact part number).

Doing all of the exercise for better mileage, which is currently between 8 - 9 KM/L (with hyper miling n extremly low foot)

P.S. I have 2005 EXi Prosmatec ... any tips from seniors please .. would be highly obliged.

Shell isnt the best of oils. If you can source Liqui Molly it would be good, otherwise settle with Zic. As far as the oil grade is concerned, dont jump from shell 20w-50 to 10w-30, might cause you problems straight away as shell 20w-50 is quite viscous oil. Over time your piston rings and seals adjust to the thicker oil and may start leaking oil if you shift to a thinner grade. 10w-40 is good enough for a car over 120k plus on the odo.

Both NGK BKR5E and Denso K16 are recommended as per Honda manual. However if you're running cng as well, you might as well have to settle for a colder spark plug, like NGK BKR6E or Denso k20. Use high octane alongwith the regular premium fuel and enjoy the ride. I have a vti oriel pros, giving around 10.3km / lit (without ac in KHI city) on petrol and around rs. 4.9 / km on CNG.

Please elaborate what do you mean by "settle for a colder spark plug" what is the difference between BKR5E and BKR6E and why would latter perform better on CNG

The numeral in the plug's variant like BKR5E or BKR6E shows the heat rating of the NGK spark plug. As per the recommendation of NGK, for CNG fuel we need colder spark plugs, meaning honda recommends BKR5E so we can settle with BKR6E or equivalent

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I use petrol and cng both. So shall i go for 6E? will it be bad for using on petrol?

@others, any idea what is recommended spark plug gap for our civic? and i heard for cng usage it is a little more (or less?)? Aqash did not check gap saying that these are new and gap adjustment is not needed but i read that even with new plugs, one must check gap.

[HellsGuardian]

wth is wrong with all quotes lately? i hate this new board

[bilalahm]

The stock gap for the engine in our EXI is 1.1 mm, whether an adjustment is required depends on the exact plug u picked as some are pre-gapped and some are not.

A BKR5E11 would be pre-gapped to 1.1 whereas a BKR5E might need to be adjusted. On CNG these are usually gapped to 0.8mm

[hash737]

manual civic has high rpms in relation to speed. my vti in 5th gear has 3k rpm at 100kmph and near 4k when 12

yes sir, mines at 3600 when driving on 120 in 5th gear.

[hash737]

[quote="cypher_001, post:1084, topic:184235, full:true"]

Salam, I have a question and hope fellow members will guide me. I have Civic 2005 EXi 140k driven. I noticed its RPM at 120 is 38000 or 39000. is it ok or something wrong happening to my car? moreover, when should I god for gear box overhauling? i mean is it necessary at 150k as my car have no issue in gears or engine.

Hoping for better guidance.

Regards,

Wa Salam, though I am not an expert but having RPM of 3800 / 3900 at speed of 120 KM/hr seems very much reasonable, i am getting almost the same on my Civic 2005 EXi Prosmatec - if you have the manual tranny i think you should have a better RPM as you have got 5th forward gear as well whereas in Prosmatec there are only 4 forward gears, regarding gear box overhauling, i dont think there is some hard n fast rule to do that until it slips some gears or create some sound or leak some fluid. Just get the Honda MTF replaced after certain mileage as per manual.

Thanks bro for your clarifications. BTW from where I can get PVC Trunk tray for my 7th gen civic in Rwp/Isb, plz.

Any time bhai, i really don't know from where we can find it, in fact i am searching for that thing too - MashAllah trunk of my car is in absolutely genuine condition and i want to keep it genuine so want to place PVC Utility tray there in trunk but no luck so far.

P.S. Seniors / other members can you please advise from where the Utility PVC Trunk tray can be found from ISB / RWP for 7th Gen Civic?

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salam,

PVC tray for 7th gen not available anywhere, only a universal tray widely available could serve the purpose.

i get 120km/h at 3600 rpm on 5th gear (manual vti oriel).
i

[MrUnknown]

[quote="hash737, post:1092, topic:184235, full:true"]

manual civic has high rpms in relation to sp,eed. my vti in 5th gear has 3k rpm at 100kmph and near 4k when 12

yes sir, mines at 3600 when driving on 120 in 5th gear.

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mine is very slightly above from 3k rpm @120 and at 100 its about 2500 @80 its slightly above 2.

oriel manual D17

[HellsGuardian]

Guys front lower arm bush are broken, any idea what is the price of oem? and can i use some other brand than oem as i expect oem will be expensive?
Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

what is expected labour charges?

[MrUnknown]

Guys front lower arm bush are broken, any idea what is the price of oem? and can i use some other brand than oem as i expect oem will be expensive?
Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

what is expected labour charges?

Bush cost 500 rs brand is RBI labour is 200 rs

[HellsGuardian]

[quote="MrUnknown, post:1096, topic:184235, full:true"]

Guys front lower arm bush are broken, any idea what is the price of oem? and can i use some other brand than oem as i expect oem will be expensive?
Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

what is expected labour charges?

Bush cost 500 rs brand is RBI labour is 200 rs

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how is the quality of this bush? lets say oem/genuine is #1, then is this #2 or #3? any idea?

Secondly please suggest a place to buy bush and get it replaced as i think the price of bush and labour you mentioned is very less. Aqash quoted me 1200 (i assume for two bushings) Labour ka mene pucha nahi...

Lastly, Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

[HellsGuardian]

just talked to aqash, he said 1000 for two bushings and 1000 labour charges and 200 pressing charges. Is it reasonable?

[MrUnknown]

Guys front lower arm bush are broken, any idea what is the price of oem? and can i use some other brand than oem as i expect oem will be expensive?
Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

what is expected labour charges?

Bush cost 500 rs brand is RBI labour is 200 rs

how is the quality of this bush? lets say oem/genuine is #1, then is this #2 or #3? any idea?

Secondly please suggest a place to buy bush and get it replaced as i think the price of bush and labour you mentioned is very less. Aqash quoted me 1200 (i assume for two bushings) Labour ka mene pucha nahi...

Lastly, Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

changing I'm one go would save double labor charges RBI is best among all as their r cheap one's also available akash quoted right as I got em from saddar so 1OO rs difference is justified

[HellsGuardian]

[quote="MrUnknown, post:1099, topic:184235, full:true"]

Guys front lower arm bush are broken, any idea what is the price of oem? and can i use some other brand than oem as i expect oem will be expensive?
Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

what is expected labour charges?

Bush cost 500 rs brand is RBI labour is 200 rs

how is the quality of this bush? lets say oem/genuine is #1, then is this #2 or #3? any idea?

Secondly please suggest a place to buy bush and get it replaced as i think the price of bush and labour you mentioned is very less. Aqash quoted me 1200 (i assume for two bushings) Labour ka mene pucha nahi...

Lastly, Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

changing I'm one go would save double labor charges RBI is best among all as their r cheap one's also available akash quoted right as I got em from saddar so 1OO rs difference is justified

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wth is wrong with this forum's quoting system! idhar ka udhar kar deta hai,

I called aqash and he asked for 1000 labour charges + 200 pressing charges. How come you estimated 200 labour charges?

Can you please tell me what other bushings can i replace in same labour?

[MrUnknown]

Guys front lower arm bush are broken, any idea what is the price of oem? and can i use some other brand than oem as i expect oem will be expensive?
Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

what is expected labour charges?

Bush cost 500 rs brand is RBI labour is 200 rs

how is the quality of this bush? lets say oem/genuine is #1, then is this #2 or #3? any idea?

Secondly please suggest a place to buy bush and get it replaced as i think the price of bush and labour you mentioned is very less. Aqash quoted me 1200 (i assume for two bushings) Labour ka mene pucha nahi...

Lastly, Is it ok to change front lower arm bushings only or shall i replace all rubber bushing in one go?

changing I'm one go would save double labor charges RBI is best among all as their r cheap one's also available akash quoted right as I got em from saddar so 1OO rs difference is justified

wth is wrong with this forum's quoting system! idhar ka udhar kar deta hai,

I called aqash and he asked for 1000 labour charges + 200 pressing charges. How come you estimated 200 labour charges?

Can you please tell me what other bushings can i replace in same labour?

akash is expensive last day i paid 500 for cleaning plugs which took litrally 10 minutes i paid 200 along with pressing to the guy where honda classic takes its suspension and stuff he is khradia basically. and was located at i j p road a year back

wat the hell is wrong with pakwheels... it takes ages to load a page and this replying is getting annoying day by day

[HellsGuardian]

akash is expensive last day i paid 500 for cleaning plugs which took litrally 10 minutes i paid 200 along with pressing to the guy where honda classic takes its suspension and stuff he is khradia basically. and was located at i j p road a year back

wat the hell is wrong with pakwheels... it takes ages to load a page and this replying is getting annoying day by day

200 total for everything? that is dirt cheap. once at g9 markaz pso pump i was getting my rear tyre puncture fixed. It seemed to me that front tyres was also low on air so i asked him to check it for puncture as well and we found none on front tyre yet he charged an extra 50 rupees labour for removing the tyre and checking it.

Yes aqash is expensive, one must go to him only for specialized work. He always give reference of 3s rates when you try to negotiate with him... and i guess that's the real reason for high charges

Can you guide me to his location on IJP road? i want to get it done tomorrow... and can he arrange the RBI bushings himself?

Lastly, any idea what other bushings can be changed in same labour?