Hydrogen Fuel Saving kit

[syd]

HHO is a SCAM and DOES NOT WORK.

@ all who say its a scam
well ive used it for several weeks in my khyber 98 a year back its not a scam.
its not practical as well. most car engine interioirs apecially exhaust is not made for this type of fuel it produces water vapours after burning which constantly corrodes the inner of the car for this system to work properly we need two things
1) cars which actually work with water vapours
2) the system itself is flaued it produces almost equal to what is required as input. Considering heat dissepation and other issues as well. so what we need is *** censored because i wont share with you, what im working on these days but it would surely increase the chances of the new system to work. and its not HHO its an other approach

[VCheng]

@ all who say its a scam

.... ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% CORRECT that it is indeed a scam.

well ive used it for several weeks in my khyber 98 a year back its not a scam.

Did you keep records of fuel consumption before and after installation up to a scientific standard?

its not practical as well. most car engine interioirs apecially exhaust is not made for this type of fuel it produces water vapours after burning which constantly corrodes the inner of the car for this system to work properly

Burning ANY hydrocarbon fuel produces water vapor as a by-product and ALL engines are designed to deal with it. The corrosion of the exhaust system over time is one side-effect of the water vapor normally produced.

we need two things

1) cars which actually work with water vapours

You mean "run on water vapor"? Not going to happen for decades. If you mean "work with" as in "be able to deal with" then we already have those cars.

2) the system itself is flaued it produces almost equal to what is required as input. Considering heat dissepation and other issues as well. so what we need is *** censored because i wont share with you, what im working on these days but it would surely increase the chances of the new system to work. and its not HHO its an other approach

The laws of thermodynamic make such a system impossible. End of story.

Your "classified" work is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE.

[syd]

.... ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% CORRECT that it is indeed a scam.

Did you keep records of fuel consumption before and after installation up to a scientific standard?

Burning ANY hydrocarbon fuel produces water vapor as a by-product and ALL engines are designed to deal with it. The corrosion of the exhaust system over time is one side-effect of the water vapor normally produced.

You mean "run on water vapor"? Not going to happen for decades. If you mean "work with" as in "be able to deal with" then we already have those cars.

The laws of thermodynamic make such a system impossible. End of story.

Your "classified" work is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE.

bro i really hate argueing about something i know but you should start reading more books before commenting
as for your impossible thing if you know so much just tell me what my classified work is

[VCheng]

bro i really hate argueing about something i know but you should start reading more books before commenting
as for your impossible thing if you know so much just tell me what my classified work is

There is NO argument here. The facts of science are crystal clear here. I know this for sure. HHO is a SCAM.

[BackToCivicFaiez]

many modern cars come with aluminium engine blocks which deal with water very good.
It forms a thin oxide layer which is very non-reactive and withstands very high temperatures.....
but I have heard the inside is covered with a layer of steel or iron or something, dont know why that is, saw on some discovery channel series...

@syd : when its complete, do show us proof that it works ( which i doubt ) and works economically.
I hope its not just another electrolytic cell that make H2 and O2 and then burns to release energy.

[syd]

many modern cars come with aluminium engine blocks which deal with water very good.
It forms a thin oxide layer which is very non-reactive and withstands very high temperatures.....
but I have heard the inside is covered with a layer of steel or iron or something, dont know why that is, saw on some discovery channel series...

@syd : when its complete, do show us proof that it works ( which i doubt ) and works economically.
I hope its not just another electrolytic cell that make H2 and O2 and then burns to release energy.

brother its not electrolytic cell it is an old form and my first reactions are it may not work at all because the temperature my new apparatus is giving is far above the melting point of engine and @vcheng brother at least try to be optimistic if there were more people like you we would not have even the electricity and your remarks do remind me of my childhood love named "Tesla"

[VCheng]

brother its not electrolytic cell it is an old form and my first reactions are it may not work at all because the temperature my new apparatus is giving is far above the melting point of engine and @vcheng brother at least try to be optimistic if there were more people like you we would not have even the electricity and your remarks do remind me of my childhood love named "Tesla"

I wish you luck, while remaining within bounds of the laws of thermodynamics.

[ohhbad]

I wanted to inform you that i know a person who has imported HHO hydrox kits from United states and will be able to get it installed for you in Rawalpindi. I will be installing it in a few days as the performance is like petrol on cng and mileage increased so much as experienced on Gli.The kit has amazing results and works on CNG, Petrol and Diesel all type of engines as it just pumps hydrogen from water to your engine making it much more powerful and fuel efficient taking the mileage to next level. this is the manufacturer of the kit you can read the rest of the details from there //MOD EDIT: Link removed.//

I am not selling this kit to you just wanna help you get it installed as it is amazing and 1 time investment, as i know that he has less quantity and has installed it in even Mercedes and performance is super then : ) . Amazing pickup and mileage on cng,petrol as well as diesel engines. as 1 is installed in KIA sportage as well. .. i can help u see the working of the kit intalled in a Gli.. soon also in my civic exi.

[ohhbad]

Also dont get confused that the car will totally run on hydrogen. The car will run on your normal fuel but now hydrogen ll also be pumped by this kit into the engine after electrolysis of distilled water in its cells .. so now it will be cng+hydrogen = alot better mileage+ performance ... same is the case with petrol and diesel.

[VCheng]

Also dont get confused that the car will totally run on hydrogen. The car will run on your normal fuel but now hydrogen ll also be pumped by this kit into the engine after electrolysis of distilled water in its cells .. so now it will be cng+hydrogen = alot better mileage+ performance ... same is the case with petrol and diesel.

That is INCORRECT. This scam DOES NOT WORK.

[ohhbad]

VCheng Have you used it ? m sharing what i have seen and experienced. this Gli now runs like an altis. go n have a look.

[VCheng]

VCheng Have you used it ? m sharing what i have seen and experienced. this Gli now runs like an altis. go n have a look.

According to the laws of thermodynamics, the kit CANNOT provide more power than it consumes, so overall it DEGRADES economy.

There is NO WAY this can work. NONE.

[RetardedBuddy]

Wow gone through 3 pages and no mention of the working principle involved :S

[BackToCivicFaiez]

Wow gone through 3 pages and no mention of the working principle involved :S

1. take water, put in electrolytic cell
2. Give DC electricity
3. Gases ( H2 and O2 ) will come out from terminals
4. Put gas in engine to make power.
5. Use power again to convert the water ( steam ) into H2+O2 and repeat again from step 3

but it will not be producing more energy than it takes in. Thats the problem.

[BackToCivicFaiez]

brother its not electrolytic cell it is an old form and my first reactions are it may not work at all because the temperature my new apparatus is giving is far above the melting point of engine and @vcheng brother at least try to be optimistic if there were more people like you we would not have even the electricity and your remarks do remind me of my childhood love named "Tesla"

There are other applications then, apart from an engine. Make a furnace from bricks, and ceramics. Can be done cheaply. If u really have a technology thats new , it will show....

( furnaces built from ceramics and bricks etc can withstand temps upto 2000 degrees and probably a little more as well )

And btw u can use it as a jet engine fuel as well, they also withstand very very high temps. And the temps dont really have to do much with the reaction. there is always a cooling system. So if ur apparatus gives u 1500 degree in lab , it will probably give half of that in the engine...

[Sohaib93]

1. take water, put in electrolytic cell
2. Give DC electricity
3. Gases ( H2 and O2 ) will come out from terminals
4. Put gas in engine to make power.
5. Use power again to convert the water ( steam ) into H2+O2 and repeat again from step 3

but it will not be producing more energy than it takes in. Thats the problem.

If this is the principle ; then it is absolutely not usable . Total bullcrap.

[syd]

According to the laws of thermodynamics, the kit CANNOT provide more power than it consumes, so overall it DEGRADES economy.

There is NO WAY this can work. NONE.

vcheng brother you are right about the law
the only problem is a lot of energy is released during any conversion in the form of HEAT DISSIPATION this process has high value of heat dissepation which helps in engine running.

H20 does not break down in H and O but is actually converted to HHO by electrolysis which is burn able form of water and when it burns the heat dissipated in the process is used in engine.

one piece of advice im telling humbly again You Have No right to say anything SCAM without giving proof i can give you enough proof as i used this in my final project, my teachers checked its working and everything. and as a reference tell you something i have two excellence certificates in my two years study time.
this thing i just wrote is not to brag but to give you the idea that i know what im talking about
you have used the word scam more than once it either shows you take us to be
1) retards
2) blind
and please with all due respect no one here is what your response is showing please have the dignity to respect your fellow brothers before posting

Note: you think its a scam you did your part by commenting it once repeated comments with similar information are very disturbing

Note: what i said above is in good will and please dont make it a matter of your ego. (im not saying you'll make it just being proactive)

@all
brothers this might be a scam this might not work this might be useless
this does not mean we should not try to advance in our path

[syd]

1. take water, put in electrolytic cell
2. Give DC electricity
3. Gases ( H2 and O2 ) will come out from terminals
4. Put gas in engine to make power.
5. Use power again to convert the water ( steam ) into H2+O2 and repeat again from step 3

but it will not be producing more energy than it takes in. Thats the problem.

yaar it would not produce more than it takes
please i am not able to write a book about how these things work
refer to g string theory for the molecular energy held by them
this process usses the heat dissipation during the process and that is the only reason the water in tank ends

correction for step 3 (it produces HH and O not H2 and 02) HH is another for of water itself

There are other applications then, apart from an engine. Make a furnace from bricks, and ceramics. Can be done cheaply. If u really have a technology thats new , it will show....

( furnaces built from ceramics and bricks etc can withstand temps upto 2000 degrees and probably a little more as well )

And btw u can use it as a jet engine fuel as well, they also withstand very very high temps. And the temps dont really have to do much with the reaction. there is always a cooling system. So if ur apparatus gives u 1500 degree in lab , it will probably give half of that in the engine...

brother im looking into matters actually i have very less time due to my work and kids and everything. im doing this solely on myself and wish to keep it this way because again i really hate people telling me im frankenstein or something lollxx

@all im not advocating HHO system to me its pretty much useless
im advocating optimism and appreciation along with actual reasoning like BackToCivicFaiez

[VCheng]

vcheng brother you are right about the law

Yes, I know I am correct. Please note that there are NO EXCEPTIONS to the Laws of Thermodynamics. NONE. EVER.

the only problem is a lot of energy is released during any conversion in the form of HEAT DISSIPATION this process has high value of heat dissepation which helps in engine running.

Do you have any idea about how heat engines work? Your description indicates that you do not.

H20 does not break down in H and O but is actually converted to HHO by electrolysis which is burn able form of water and when it burns the heat dissipated in the process is used in engine.

"Burnable" form of water?

If it is burnable, it is NOT water.
If it is water, it is NOT burnable.

one piece of advice im telling humbly again You Have No right to say anything SCAM without giving proof

I have the Laws of Thermodynamics on my side, and that is ALL the proof needed.

i can give you enough proof as i used this in my final project, my teachers checked its working and everything.

Your final project of what exactly? And I would like to know who is your teacher and his/her qualifications and experience.

And please present the "proof" here so that it can be discussed.

and as a reference tell you something i have two excellence certificates in my two years study time.
this thing i just wrote is not to brag but to give you the idea that i know what im talking about

I am sorry to say that you have wasted two years of your life if this is the end result.

you have used the word scam more than once it either shows you take us to be
1) retards
2) blind

Please note that I have not called anybody any names. But the truth is the truth: HHO is a SCAM.

and please with all due respect no one here is what your response is showing please have the dignity to respect your fellow brothers before posting

Note: you think its a scam you did your part by commenting it once repeated comments with similar information are very disturbing

Actually, your insistence in propagating ignorance and falsehoods is more disturbing. I am merely trying to prevent your misconceptions from misleading others too.

Note: what i said above is in good will and please dont make it a matter of your ego. (im not saying you'll make it just being proactive)

I have no ego. I know what I know, and I am not afraid to say it.

@all
brothers this might be a scam this might not work this might be useless
this does not mean we should not try to advance in our path

Trying to advance does not mean letting go of logical thought and proven knowledge.

[syd]

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