Inverter Type AC in Pakistan (Inverter/Non Inverter Dedicated Discussion)

[hyder_m29]

That was what turned out to be issue. There was a spare 20A breaker installed, I switched to that after it was tripping and that was failing too. So I thought - no way two breakers would fail, must be something else. Nope, both breakers were bad. Replaced the breaker and had chand raat was nice and cool.

[s15]

It's thermal throttling, i.e reducing compressor speed to prevent over-heating, because it's not designed for such extreme temperatures. User manual clearly mentions that it's optimum performance is upto 43C outside temperature.

The issue has been clearly discussed previously.

I used to live in single story house, hot like oven and direct sunlight throughout the day, with temperatures going 45-50C on regular basis, and regular non T3 split AC would lose cooling and even start thermal tripping occasionally (inverters were not available back then).

Nothing can be done, except cleaning outdoor unit coils every month and keeping some shade on outdoor unit. This will improve.

Spraying some water carefully on outdoor unit coils will bring some temporary improvement, but i don't recommend it doing with AC on.

Summary: Poor underperformer overpriced "GREE" could not tolerate such high temperatures".

[gull_s_777]

Ok i am curious now.
Next time temp hits 47 degree outside, i 'll carefully observe my inverter orient' s behaviour.

[searchingeyez]

I am going to share some details of orient ultron bolt indoor A/C. I did some DIY. I opened my brand new A/C for painting the u bends because of naala flows outside the society to prevent premature rusting. Because of naala, bare copper metal u bend get corrosion.

theae are the copper uncoated u-bend.

after painting bare metal is coated with enemel. I hope it would work.

This is the golden fin coated but u-bends are not coated at all

Lets come to the motors installed in it.

This is the indoor fan motor. Which is china made and it uses AC motor running at 220V and 0.35A maximum means 77 watts almost. However samsung and daikin also uses china fan motor but their motor consumes only 15 watts. Orient indoor fan motor's wattage is high at 77 watt. I don't know its because of so called 60 feet throw or its just because of cheaper coil.

Indoor unit without coil

[searchingeyez]

Now i am going to show you the revolving motor of the orient ultron bold. Pure china made but dc motor

[pwuser155967735728]

Thanks for useful information.

Is thermal throttling issue specific to Gree or its common in all brands. As per market survey, they sell Gree as the best brand

I did made a temporary shade on the outdoor unit and improvement observed in performance.

[pwuser155967735728]

Let me know the outcome.

I will be comparing it with Gree's performance.

[tmalik]

Whether invertor AC or non invertor AC. Both types have a miximum environmental temperature at which they are designed to work properly.
The AC manual/book should have the value of the max environment temperature in it. If the max temp is exceeded then don't expect AC to work.

I think that in case of high environmental temperature the invertor AC might slow the speed of the compressor whereas the Non invertor AC simply shuts the compressor off.

[imranabid4301]

Dear experts need your expertise here. my haier 1.5 ton inverter which I mostly set on 27C takes almost 1.5 to 2 amps after achieving 27C temp but now I have noticed that it still takes 1.5 to 2 amps at 27C but after that it goes to above 3 amps even 4 amps constantly whole night. 27C pe any k bad kafi der 1.5 amp pe rehta he par us k bad dobara 3 amp se upar chala jata he. What will be the reason?

[gull_s_777]

Orient indoor fan motor's wattage is high at 77 watt. I don't know its because of so called 60 feet throw or its just because of cheaper coil.

Orient knows that so called "throw" pulls customers here.

Practically it is just noise to me. I leave the fan on auto.

[s15]

It's normal, because it's much hotter these days. During daytime, lots of heat are absorbed by room objects, walls, roof etc, and during the night, the cooling from AC is absorbed by them.

Keeping ceiling fan off (MUST), ac fan on auto, and swing on with properly set directions and clean indoor and outdoor coils help to achieve lower current.

Majority of time, ceiling fan sucks heat from roof and other rooms (when room door opens) and usually causes this intermittent increase and decrease amps behaviour you mentioned.

[IceCold]

I have same series and My AC was also tripping but my breaker was 10 amp. Initially it was working fine because i was using it at night only but as the temp got on the higher side and i started using it in day time as well and also because my outdoor is sitting on the roof top with no shade so the AC started taking more amp and so it started tripping after few hours of use. Now I installed 16 amps and now its working fine. No tripping yet. 20 amps is way more than required. Most probably its faulty breaker. Get is replaced and see what happens.

[sleeper]

Salam...thanku for sharing you DIY
.
I also have orient inverter 1 ton AC
.
It was recently serviced by technicians and now i noticed the compressor speed/cooling is not changing with respect to the temperature i have set.....it is always cooling on full power
.
I think the tech guy disturbed the Room temperature sensing unit (whatever its called) on cooling coil which needs re adjustment.
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How do i adjust this? Is there anything else that can be the issue?

[gull_s_777]

Let me know the outcome.

I will be comparing it with Gree's performance.

Checked my Orient Ultron
With 46 degree outside and AC was pulling 8.5 - 9 Amps.
No complaint on the cooling.
Room temp also came down nice and quick.

I live in small town with open well ventilated house. So outdoor unit can breath easy even in high temperatures.

[imranabid4301]

Thanks dear but I never turned ceiling fan on while Ac is running. Actually there is no constant amp usage. Cleaning outdoor might helpful

[pwuser152009815920]

Hi, my gree ac has stopped working in cool mode since one week, it now runs only on auto mode with 25 degree temp, which i cant change. Previously it was working fine ion cool mode with 28 even on 29 temp so why its not working at all now in cool mode of ac? In cool mode only fan runs with very very slight cooling.

[pwuser152009815920]

GHi, my gree ac has stopped working in cool mode since one week, it now runs only on auto mode with 25 degree temp, which i cant change. Previously it was working fine ion cool mode with 28 even on 29 temp so why its not working at all now in cool mode of ac? In cool mode only fan runs with very very slight cooling.

[classna]

Guys i went to the market today to search for mitsubishi however couldnt find its imported model 1.5 TON for 65K Rs.

Found Haier HSU-18HJ/012USDC(S) to be the best looking and had copper/gold fins on the inner unit. dealer told me that it was imported unit. It was for 78K

Also found panasonic latest triangle shaped model (very cool) however it was quoted 90K Rs (1.5 TON).

Dawlance 1.5 TON with gold fin and T3 compressor and 12 years warranty in 65K made most sense. however it seems that i will procure haier since quality seemed better of the inner unit.

Panasonic triangle is locally assembled or imported? Could you plz share the dealer location where I can check it out?

[pwuser152009815920]

Hi, my gree ac has stopped working in cool mode since one week, it now runs only on auto mode with 25 degree temp, which i cant change. Previously it was working fine ion cool mode with 28 even on 29 temp so why its not working at all now in cool mode of ac? In cool mode only fan runs with very very slight cooling. D

[pwuser152009815920]

Hi, my gree ac has stopped working in cool mode since one week, it now runs only on auto mode with 25 degree temp, which i cant change. Previously it was working fine ion cool mode with 28 even on 29 temp so why its not working at all now in cool mode of ac? In cool mode only fan runs with very very slight cooling. H