Kaghan Valley: Latest Updates for 2012 season

[pakistanibandah786]

The said route is fine, last june i used the same route with family, using corolla. most of the part is good but some portion the road not good.

SirJee @sajidahmed Many Thanks for affirming the route...I was a little hesitant as there were some news coming out of that area since the 2010 flooding and I was not sure if it has been fixed...But if you had traveled last year and hence 'no news, means good news' ...so inshaAllah will take this route instead of the ISB-Abbt-Mansehra...the thought of a long line of Goods Trucks and people driving like lunatics is not my cup of tea...

[pakistanibandah786]

I don't have any idea of the road condition but i can guide u for the way assuming that u will be coming from Kohala side to Muzaffarabad.

The map is self explanatory.

I assume u will be coming from Kohala and then u can turn left at the bridge before city and use the road going to Garhi Habibullah.

The view of Muzaffarabad city specially Lower Chattar is amazing once u gain some height.

Use the road marked with red track.

001 by Sabrite, on Flickr

SirJee @aesiege: Excellent tip and appreciate the extra effort...I am googled to the maps now...Will send live updates via my twitter account @Chakwalistani, should the Samsung Galaxy/Zong work over there...

[engineermali]

can any one tell me about SRI PAE

i know its near KIWAI

from where exact its road starts ???

which kind of track is this .... 4x4 or car or on foot ???

how many kilometers ????

how much time ???

[whiteangel]

can any one tell me about SRI PAE

i know its near KIWAI

from where exact its road starts ???

which kind of track is this .... 4x4 or car or on foot ???

how many kilometers ????

how much time ???

From Kiwai there is a winding road that goes up the hills to Shogran. Shogran is 7km from Kiwai. It will take you 45min to get to Shogran. The road is not in good condition but cars can go there. But the climb is steep and make sure your car is in good shape. Secondly don't attempt this climb if there is snow on the road or the track is muddy and slippery.

When you get to Shogran, you need to hire a jeep to get to Siri and Paye. It is a 4x4 track, you cannot take your car. I don't know the exact distance but a jeep ride to Paye is about an hour and a half.

Trekkers also go there on foot, but for the rest it is better to hire a jeep.

[Raheeln]

from kiwai, shogran, a road just start climbing towards right, and from shogran jeeps only to first sri and then payay, 1.5 hours drive approx.....

can any one tell me about SRI PAE

i know its near KIWAI

from where exact its road starts ???

which kind of track is this .... 4x4 or car or on foot ???

how many kilometers ????

how much time ???

[MultaniTraveler]

if you dont wana stay at shogran, then u can park at kiwai and rent a jeep for Siri Paye. The rate will be econimical as compared from shogran.

[pakistanibandah786]

if you dont wana stay at shogran, then u can park at kiwai and rent a jeep for Siri Paye. The rate will be econimical as compared from shogran.

Sir @MultaniTraveler....IF the road is too bad to drive to Shogran, are there any hotels or places to stay overnight in Kiwai?? Regards

[engineermali]

From Kiwai there is a winding road that goes up the hills to Shogran. Shogran is 7km from Kiwai. It will take you 45min to get to Shogran. The road is not in good condition but cars can go there. But the climb is steep and make sure your car is in good shape. Secondly don't attempt this climb if there is snow on the road or the track is muddy and slippery.

When you get to Shogran, you need to hire a jeep to get to Siri and Paye. It is a 4x4 track, you cannot take your car. I don't know the exact distance but a jeep ride to Paye is about an hour and a half.

Trekkers also go there on foot, but for the rest it is better to hire a jeep.

WINDING ROAD ???????? I am going in 1500cc probox so no problem for steep roads ... it wont be snow bcz im planning the trip in july ....... ok thanks dear

[engineermali]

from kiwai, shogran, a road just start climbing towards right, and from shogran jeeps only to first sri and then payay, 1.5 hours drive approx.....

ok dear

[moonraider]

ASA
about the muzzafarabad to balakot route..
check the threads...there is one in which some guyz gone from muzzafarabad to balakot and shogran..they must have followed this route and they r the guys with latest road situation...
so buddy PM them!!
BOL

[moonraider]

@engineermali

a word of caution.. this kiwai to shogran road is under construction do make sure what is the situation before u venture there.. and also this road is quite narrow and v steep, ist gear is used quite often so even if ur car is 1.5l, it would be automatic trans and big sized car.. so always b realistic and careful
BOL brother!!

[moonraider]

btw ab shogran me wo pehle jaisi bat nahin rahi because of the population explosion and excessive hotels.. think about it also!!

[MultaniTraveler]

Sir @MultaniTraveler....IF the road is too bad to drive to Shogran, are there any hotels or places to stay overnight in Kiwai?? Regards

There is only couple of hotels for refreshment and car parking. If u have to stay, Best option to go to Balakot.

[engineermali]

@engineermali

a word of caution.. this kiwai to shogran road is under construction do make sure what is the situation before u venture there.. and also this road is quite narrow and v steep, ist gear is used quite often so even if ur car is 1.5l, it would be automatic trans and big sized car.. so always b realistic and careful
BOL brother!!

if it was under construction .... then car has steering .... i will turn back .... no big deal .... i know it narrow and steep .... car is big but its new and dont forget that 1500cc 1NZ-FE produce 107hp ..... so no problem for steep roads .... i am realistic and i am not 18 year old boy rather i am 31 year old mature man .... so before writing something read it that you dont try to hurt any one feelings .... regards (H)

[savage_zubair]

Its very difficult to turn ur car back on shogran road and sometimes, u have to wait and give way to the vehicle coming from opposite side ..

[hassannabeel27]

if it was under construction .... then car has steering .... i will turn back .... no big deal .... i know it narrow and steep .... car is big but its new and dont forget that 1500cc 1NZ-FE produce 107hp ..... so no problem for steep roads .... i am realistic and i am not 18 year old boy rather i am 31 year old mature man .... so before writing something read it that you dont try to hurt any one feelings .... regards (H)

Although i think probox will easily go up on that road. But its not possible to turn back on shogran road. Specially with a probox.

[waqastariq]

if it was under construction .... then car has steering .... i will turn back .... no big deal .... i know it narrow and steep .... car is big but its new and dont forget that 1500cc 1NZ-FE produce 107hp ..... so no problem for steep roads .... i am realistic and i am not 18 year old boy rather i am 31 year old mature man .... so before writing something read it that you dont try to hurt any one feelings .... regards (H)

You are kidding your self if you think you can turn back on Shogran road, that is what the guy was warning you about, you will screw your new 1,500CC car if the road comes out to be more than what you can handle, and believe me Shogran road is pretty difficult ascend, and with an attitude like yours you may regret it afterwards. Anyways its your car and your decision, best of luck!

[asadsethi]

let me add something regarding Kiwai - Shogran track. We were there on 28 April, at that time it was 4x4 only track, very poor, broken , steep track with a thick muddy part. We were on 2 jeeps, Prado and Sportage , so alhamdolilah reached there without any prob, although the mud track was a bit tough. On 20 May, my friend reached Shogran on his 2000 Santro with family, without any big prob and returned in 1 piece , and the FWO was trying to make track fit for summers, so from june onwards i hope a 30 year old FX may also reach shogran. Nothing to worry about 1.5 Probox,

[engineermali]

You are kidding your self if you think you can turn back on Shogran road, that is what the guy was warning you about, you will screw your new 1,500CC car if the road comes out to be more than what you can handle, and believe me Shogran road is pretty difficult ascend, and with an attitude like yours you may regret it afterwards. Anyways its your car and your decision, best of luck!

that guy was saying that ask if road were closes but other friend said that it is not closed and one of his friend went in santro ......... so u dont take tension

[engineermali]

Although i think probox will easily go up on that road. But its not possible to turn back on shogran road. Specially with a probox.

but dear road is open so no turning back require ...... i just gaved an example of turning back