Lubricant Discussion- Engine Oil / Gear Oil

[pwuser166331039855]

So it’s basically my first car. It’s a corolla altis 1.6 2017 and it’s almost 96,000 driven. I did the first oil change 6000km before 5w30. Most of the people told me to go for 10w40. And im confused as hell what oil should i get done with it. Once a person told me your car is making a certain noise because the oil is not thick but there is no wear and tear and my car works perfectly fine too as far as i think. Can anyone help me here to choose the best type of oil for my car. It would be a great help

In the manual on the oil recommendation page, I am 99.99% sure that recommended viscosity by OEM is 5w-30 & 10w-30

But 5w-30 works great

Read above post of this thread ttoo and choose the correct category of oil.

[kimaniirfan]

I wanted to stick with fully synthetic as both of my cars are used on Fully synthetic, is it a good idea by changing to Mobil1 5w-30 fully synthetic or I should go for Taglon X 5w-30 semi synthetic?

[kimaniirfan]

I wanted best for my cars, I'm thinking of Mobil1 5w-30 Fully synthetic.Also, if I choose Mobil1 fully synthetic do I have to used oil filter from them which is used for long intervals? Or the normal toyota one is good enough?

[pwuser166331039855]

TBH I’ve seen people changing the fully synthetic oils only after 3K km since its good according to their own understanding. And I’ve also seen people using fully synthetics and changing after 10-15K. Even I remember some person mentioned here at forums that he used AMS fully synthetic oil upto 20K in his car.
i've also seen people using pure Mineral oils and changing after 5-6K km.
thousands of different types of examples are there.

But quantity of oil (Size of sump) is important to understand these change intervals.
If the vehicle takes 3.5-4L motor oil only, then it means oil will have more beating and hence not recommended to run it upto extended or extra long intervals.
But if vehicle takes 8-10L oil like many models of German/American cars, then its OK to run it upto extended intervals. Formula is simple.

[mgalaxy3]

Go with fully synthetic 5w30 or 0w20.

But why mobil1?? It’s unnecessarily expensive.

You will do just fine with Havoline PRODS API-SP oil, it’s great and change after 8000km.

Can also go with Shell HX7 PLUS. Don’t buy non plus as it’s not fully synthetic.

[kimaniirfan]

What about these?

[mgalaxy3]

Havoline same grade 4L is around 8k-9k. Cheaper and not really inferior.

This Mobil1 is also good but like I said expensive.

[kimaniirfan]

Yeah man, I got your point but it was in promotional scheme and having difference of just 2k that's why this time I opt for it. Next time if the promotional scheme is not available I will opt for the other options such as Havoline, Total or shell. Thank you for your guidance!

[kimaniirfan]

Also, what do you think about this oil filter?

[mgalaxy3]

Only use oem genuine oil filter.

Unless you have access to high performance high quality filters that exceed genuine OEM specs and are third party verified . Such filters I’ve found in the US but don’t trust things available here locally.

[kimaniirfan]

Ok, Mobil1 shop guy was referring the above one for 1,500. And would be the safest place to buy oil filter other than toyota than as they charged double.

[pwuser15193270534]

Which engine oil is good for Revo 2023 diesel ? Please help currently its 21k driven not satisfied from toyota dealership

[pwuser162557941033]

Also, what do you think about this oil filter?

VIC is a decent filter manufacturer. I use VIC filters and have used them for many years with no problems.

I initially thought it was a fake, but this is a valid model number for the 1KR-FE engine. O-117. It is available to buy on reputable Japanese auto parts sites.

What about these?

I ran Mobil 1 TAP 5W-30 API SP in my R18A for 10,000km with no ill effects with a Honda oil filter. It's a fine oil with a very high TBN - higher than any other local 5W-30 - that's made for long change intervals.

You can also find these oils/filters/etc. at ZAFCOM Lubricants near Kala Pull. I've been to the Punjab Colony Mobil1 Auto Spa. It's alright. They seem legitimate.

If you do visit ZAFCOM, be warned that they are quite obviously shilling MOTUL products.

[kimaniirfan]

I will buy the VIC oil filter from Mobil1 autospa shop then if it looks legitimate. Thank you so much for your guidance. Appreciate it!

[pwuser162557941033]

No worries. Additionally, it's alright to save money on oil if you're going to be changing it often anyway. You can buy a cheap 5W-30 and change it at 3000, or a very expensive 5W-30 (that is designed for high-mileage oil change intervals) at 10,000. It's your choice. They both work, because they are tested to have the correct specifications before the manufacturer can state it on the bottle.

Always listen to the manufacturer. For example, my turbocharged Suzuki wants 5,000km oil changes, but 10,000km filter changes according to the original manual. Back when it was manufactured, the spec was API SF, and I wouldn't expect an oil to last that long. But modern oils can easily last 10,000km or even longer in service, because oil and additive technology has come a long way since then, in part due to the specifications and standards they have to meet becoming much more stringent, and the tests more rigorous.

Even purchasing a brand new filter on every oil change isn't necessary for a lot of these cars. If only anyone read their owner's manual.

By the way, Rs. 11,320 for 4L as stated on the sticker in the picture you posted is not a great price. I bought the same oil for like Rs. 12.5k for 4L.

You want some real savings? PSO makes a quality full syn 5W-30, 8k for 4L. Their semi-syn 10W-30 is super appealing to me for all my cars - it's under 7k for 4L and IIRC so is Havoline Formula 10W-30 - that's also API SN, and their nearest price competitor - remember, when companies compete, the consumer benefits. I just got Idemitsu 5W-30 full syn for my Civic, 7k for 4L.

My personal POV: if I'm going to change them all at 8,000km / 5,000 miles anyway, why not just get the cheapest one instead of literally pouring money down the drain? Caltex, Shell, PSO, Total, Idemitsu, literally whatever is cheapest goes into my cars. The performance standards are the same for that mileage interval from pretty much any of the full syn oils available.

Plus you get the benefit of buying known-good Pakistani with a big company's name, ad spend and marketing campaigns on the line instead of random khaipya maal. Most of these local oil companies have scratch-off codes that you can send to verify authenticity via SMS. I even got a call from Caltex to warn me about a code that I entered in more than once, saying that I might have purchased counterfeit oil.

[kimaniirfan]

Got your point across! I will surely think about it changing next time cause I have already thought not to run this more than 8000kms and I think I'm spending more on this, but one of the reason is peace of mind. Mobil1 autospa shop is authorized I even checked it on the website. For oils like Havoline, Shell and Total I'm not sure if I will be able to get my hands on the genuine one or not a lot of fake oils are there in the market. One thing more I wanted to stick with fully synthetic other wise Taglon X was a good option.

[pwuser162557941033]

Yes, I get what you mean. That was also my initial motivation towards purchasing Mobil 1 for the vehicles at home. But I can't verify the manufacture of the bottle, really - even if I have used Mobil1 TAP 5W-30 API SP for 10,000km myself.

Caltex has their own service centers and scratch-off SMS codes, but not for gasoline full syn. PSO has codes and service centers for all of their range. And a decent website with good data sheets too.

ZIC also has service centers, but some of their bottles don't have codes and their verification system isn't great. And Total really is terrible at all this. Shame, because both have great, world-renowned full syn oils.

I just recently saw that Shell has new scratch-off SMS packaging for the Helix Ultra full syn oils, which are known to be excellent. I used them myself for thousands of miles in the US - it's called Pennzoil Ultra Platinum there. Thinking about trying that for whatever car needs an oil change next.

[kimaniirfan]

I asked the Mobil1 shop guy to verify and he verified it through scanning from his mobile. The scan took us to the website of Mobil1 and I think the oils I have purchased are authentic for which I have peace in my mind. For next time I think I can opt for PSO may be as I can verify there Fully Synthetic 5w-30 and may be by then caltex will have this verification service.

[mgalaxy3]

You don’t need to verify any scratch codes for havoline.

They have official oil changing shops as well as official store on Daraz Mall. Ordering from daraz can even be cheaper if you combine it with credit card and other discount promotions.

It is one oil that I’m always sure about cuz I either buy it from official havoline shops or from official daraz store.

PSO can also be bought from official pumps but I don’t trust that oil much, it costs the same as oil giants like Havoline or Shell but comes from a local player.

[pwuser171553358447]

Hello Everyone

Had bought a decent k24A3 and swapped into my civic ek 3 months ago. It has almost ran 3,000Km since then.
The first Oil change I did was Idemitsu 10w40.

Now I would need safe recommendations regarding either I should go with which oil keeping in mind that winters are coming in Islamabad and Engine is 20 years old
1- 10w40
2- 5w30
3- 20w50 (Engine is old, like idk)

Currently the setup is N/A with everything stock except headers.