Lubricant Discussion- Engine Oil / Gear Oil

[pwuser162557941033]

Yes the new 10W-30 API SP is quite cheap. The price is on the packaging, Rs. 4500 for 3 liters. Only PSO beats it, but only by a few hundred rupees, and their Carient Ultra is not rated SP - although there's no datasheet for the new Havoline. Both PSO and Caltex 10W-30s have a TBN of 7. They're direct competitors.

For full syn oils, Total's API SP 5W-30 is Rs. 6000 for 3 liters right now. I think Shell 5W-30 HX7 Plus API SP is similarly priced. This cheap Havoline went in my F6AT Jimny, along with a blue bottle of STP Oil Treatment. Additional ZDDP and thickeners for the highly-strung flat tappet cam engine. I use a larger filter to increase the oil capacity slightly.

I recently put 4L of Idemitsu IFG 3 5W-30 in my R18A Civic with 200,000km+. That's probably the thinnest 5W-30 I've seen, next to Valvoline's SynPower 5W-30. Both API SP / ILSAC GF-6A.

The ACEA A3/B4 oils require HTHS >3.5. I prefer that spec, personally, but it's not necessary for the majority of the country's overpriced economy box cars. It's not a lot extra - Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 is an excellent example. 4L is about Rs. 12.5k.

[pwuser162557941033]

Make sure you follow the manufacturer's specifications - the correct oil to use is in your owner's manual.

Caltex Delo Gold Ultra or Delo 400 MGX would work.

[pwuser162557941033]

I'd get roughly 5 liters of a good quality full synthetic 5W-30 if your hot oil pressure is normal. Only if it's lower than what the manufacturer specifies as normal should you consider a thicker oil.

[mgalaxy3]

ACEA A3/B4 compromise a bit on fuel economy with the higher HTHS almost making it w40 oil - even the w30 ones. Better for engine wear protection in high performance cars or doing high speed/revs regularly like above 150-160 kmhr.

I prefer the A5/B5 spec when it comes to EU certifications, a decent balance of HTHS and fuel economy. Mobil1 5w30 available in Pak is A5/B5.

[the_mira_guy_08]

Use Toyota FE CVT fluid.

[pwuser166331039855]

If u see any bluesmoke after that from the exhaust, then revert to 20w-50

Shifting like this doesn’t not cause blue smoke all of sudden unless the 20w-50 oil is counterfeit product.
If Engine is in good health, then changing such viscosities for one time doesn’t matter.

The person should keep running on 20w-50 and change it after 4-5K km and then shift back to 10w-30.

But in cash if he observes the blue smoke, then it means the engine is burning motor oil. Which means the driver poured 2 number tail. In that case, should immediately drain this oil and shift back to 10w-30

[pwuser166331039855]

When more than 10 companies will blend the same product, then ofcoarse the rise of competition would be there.
Some companies use anti wear additives like MoS2 as marketing strategies and some companies use PAO as marketing strategies etc. etc.

YouTube Channel Project Farm has multiple time tested the samples of these oils and checked in lab.
The oils which has slightly more detergents they have slightly less anti-wear additives.
Some oils who are rich in anti-wear additives they have slightly less detergents.
Etc. etc.

Some oils will have more Barium but less Phosphorus.
Some oils will have more zinc but less Boron
Some oils will have more MOS2 but less Magnesium.
And list goes on.

At the end, if Shell’s oil has got 99 number out of 100, then total will have 98.9, Mobil will have 99.1, Caltex will have 98.95 etc. (Comparing the specs of same viscosity).

But as we sum-up all the additives, then the equation seems balanced. Because more than base oils, these additives are way more expensive.

Recently I met with a guy who worked in Qalco Qatar for 25 years and drove Land Cruiser daily for his work and proudly says he was using 20w-60 in his jeep while OEM has recommended to use 5w-30
I told him that it’s a direct mistake and his jaws drops till knees after 5 minutes chats when he actually realizes that it’s a mistake to use such motor oil in Gulf Countries.

[naveedkhan9210]

Hello Everyone
I am using vitz 1.3 ILL 2006 model which show a milage of 65 k on odo, but God Knows the actual milage. I would like to now which Engine oil is best for the car and where can i get genuine oil in Peshawar. Thank you

[sardarg]

look for oil shops in automotive market --- you need 5W-20 grade engine oil, Shell, Mobil, Havoline, PSO Carient if shop has drums and have volume sales then it is genuine buy from drums that will cost you less then plastic retail pack. or buy from Shell / PSO / TOTAL Company operated stations only.
sir @dayrider can guide as well

[dayrider]

Quite difficult to find reputable oil in Peshawar, check with performance workshops, they keep original oil as they can't afford mess ups

[mgalaxy3]

Go to official havoline oil change shops. One is on main university road before bata.

Get havoline 0w20 or 5w30. Genuine and good quality oil.

[kamran2024]

Hi, I recently found an old slip from Toyota Motors that says they have changed "Limited Slip Differential Oil - 1L", in my Toyota Corolla GLi 1.3 Manual 2013. Can anyone explain? Is this Gear Oil or something else? Thank you

[Xulfiqar]

They pulled a fast one on you

Your corolla doesnt have an LSD, and its manual box takes 2.5 litres oil, even if they just topped it off, they were supposed to use the cheaper regular non lsd gear oil,

Ask them why this was billed when the car doesnt require it.

[pwuser156532646969]

Any recommended workshop in lahore or multan for grande CVT oil replacement who perform OEM method of fluid replacement?

[dayrider]

Project x in johar town, it has a new name now. Abbas something.

[makhdoom007]

Salam to all of You
I am searching for Amsoil 10w40. Is there any guy who used it in his vehicle. If yes then plz guide me about this.
Coz i have listened about its better fuel average, less engine noise, drain time etc.

[mgalaxy3]

All the things you are mentioning will not magically change by just pouring oil of a specific brand.

Amsoil and other vendors too make some high mileage oils which means they can be changed after like 20,000 km etc. but it’s not needed and do require special oil filters that last this long.

Just stick to any good oil company and use fully synthetic oil, they all will be the same with very minor difference.

[dayrider]

Amsoil doesn't go through regulatory testing, they claim its wastes money, hence they aren't certified.

[TypeA]

Coz i have listened about its better fuel average, less engine noise, drain time etc

wrong radio station you are tuned to. mate reading is better then listening.

engine oil change interval is 6 months or 5000 miles. open up your vehicle user manual, move to scheduled maintenance section. There in the matrix table you can find the engine, transmission, differential oil change intervals and the mileage / duration mentioned.

[dms664]

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