Maintaining UPS/car batteries

[unstopabl3]

I have replied but u didnt get that.......... ok u ll use 20A wire in ur new kit

Yes I know maximum charge rate for my batteries should be 13-15A, but I asked something else from you bro.

[Ishtiaq778]

Wahi to aapse pooch raha huun bro, kit ka koi taaluq hai yaan sirf transformer par depend karta hai charging ampere??? Because in my current UPS three wires are coming out of transformer, one is brown which is 5A, one is blue which is 15A i think and one is yellow which is 20A i think.

Jaab wapda voltages below 220V hote hain like 200-210V charging bhot slow hoti hai so I hook up the yellow wire (20A) onto the kit and batteries fully charged within 1 hour and amperes on multi-meter show 17-20A.

But when wapda voltages are 220V or higher lets say 225-230V then on yellow wire the batteries fully charge in 30 mins and UPS+Battery terminals+Wires get too hot, and on multi-meter it shows 25-30A.

So when wapda voltages are 220V or higher, I plug in the blue wire (15A) and UPS charges battery within 1.5 hours and multi-meter shows 14-16A, which is safe I think.

So my question is, ye to transformer sai wires aarahi hain, kit sai kya taaluq charging rate ka??? And agar new kit lagwaoon to kaisse setting karunga k wo initially 15A charge karna shuru kare and baad main khuudi trickle charge kare???

jo kit aap is waqt use kar rahay ho, us main ampere control system nai he, aur is main aap ko manually transformer ke loop change kar kay up down krna ho ga, jab k new kit main ampere control option he, us main aap sirf max ampere dainay wali loop use krtay huay kit say 15A set kar dain kit say.

[Ishtiaq778]

jo kit aap is waqt use kar rahay ho, us main ampere control system nai he, aur is main aap ko manually transformer ke loop change kar kay up down krna ho ga, jab k new kit main ampere control option he, us main aap sirf max ampere dainay wali loop use krtay huay kit say 15A set kar dain kit say.

[Ishtiaq778]

Wahi to aapse pooch raha huun bro, kit ka koi taaluq hai yaan sirf transformer par depend karta hai charging ampere??? Because in my current UPS three wires are coming out of transformer, one is brown which is 5A, one is blue which is 15A i think and one is yellow which is 20A i think.

Jaab wapda voltages below 220V hote hain like 200-210V charging bhot slow hoti hai so I hook up the yellow wire (20A) onto the kit and batteries fully charged within 1 hour and amperes on multi-meter show 17-20A.

But when wapda voltages are 220V or higher lets say 225-230V then on yellow wire the batteries fully charge in 30 mins and UPS+Battery terminals+Wires get too hot, and on multi-meter it shows 25-30A.

So when wapda voltages are 220V or higher, I plug in the blue wire (15A) and UPS charges battery within 1.5 hours and multi-meter shows 14-16A, which is safe I think.

So my question is, ye to transformer sai wires aarahi hain, kit sai kya taaluq charging rate ka??? And agar new kit lagwaoon to kaisse setting karunga k wo initially 15A charge karna shuru kare and baad main khuudi trickle charge kare???

So my question is, ye to transformer sai wires aarahi hain, kit sai kya taaluq charging rate ka??? ( IC 104 aur IC 105 kit k elawa koi kit charging rate ko control nain karty, charging us loop pe depend krty he jo aap 5A,.10A, 15A ya 20A wali use krtay hain, aur ye ampere wapda kay volts pe depend krtay hain,kam volt kam ampere .... ziada volts ziada amperes)( And agar new kit lagwaoon to kaisse setting karunga k wo initially 15A charge karna shuru kare and baad main khuudi trickle charge kare???( new kit main sab say ziada ampere dainay wali loop ek bar laga di jati he, baqi kit autmatically sb kuch control krti he)

[nasirjavaid]

Where did you purchased it from bro and total cost after installation?

I purchased from imran brothers hall road. I also purchased module from them and total purchase was 2000rs. UPS guy took 600 for replacing and adjustment. Now I re adjusted it as per my need.

[nasirjavaid]

@ishtiaq778 @talhawaleed

In coming days, I am going to buy a ups preferably aurora or cyber power 24v but thinking which brand is more reliable and give long backup aurora or cyber power?

Also I have some confusion about 24v series and 12v parallel battery bank that which combination will give long back up, quick charging and high output power to a system?

Please help me on these matters.

Google for aurora, I heard bad things about it.

[unstopabl3]

jo kit aap is waqt use kar rahay ho, us main ampere control system nai he, aur is main aap ko manually transformer ke loop change kar kay up down krna ho ga, jab k new kit main ampere control option he, us main aap sirf max ampere dainay wali loop use krtay huay kit say 15A set kar dain kit say.

Thanks for your awesome replies bro, really appreciate them.

Ampere settings k ilawa kya faide hain if I upgrade to IC 104 or IC 105 kit???

And sirf kit laini paraigi for this upgrade yaan koi aur cheez bhi???

And any specific brand yaan kisi bhi bran ki chaallaigi?

[unstopabl3]

I purchased from imran brothers hall road. I also purchased module from them and total purchase was 2000rs. UPS guy took 600 for replacing and adjustment. Now I re adjusted it as per my need.

Bro why from hall road, local UPS technicians k pass ni hoti ye kit???

Ye hall road par exactly kahan hai Imran Brothers ki shop???

And module kya cheez hain???

[jamalkhanjani]

Anyone using Phoenix UGS 175 battery? HOw is its backup? I need to run 2 fans ?
I previously used AGS GX 165 with homage 1001, in first year its backup on two 56" celing fans was upto 3.5 hours Can I expect same with phoenix UGS 175???
Actually I donot know if AGS GX165 has same amps as phoenix UGS-175.....

[murtaza.ajmi.3]

Anyone using Phoenix UGS 175 battery? HOw is its backup? I need to run 2 fans ?
I previously used AGS GX 165 with homage 1001, in first year its backup on two 56" celing fans was upto 3.5 hours Can I expect same with phoenix UGS 175???
Actually I donot know if AGS GX165 has same amps as phoenix UGS-175.....

ags is good ....

[Ishtiaq778]

Anyone using Phoenix UGS 175 battery? HOw is its backup? I need to run 2 fans ?
I previously used AGS GX 165 with homage 1001, in first year its backup on two 56" celing fans was upto 3.5 hours Can I expect same with phoenix UGS 175???
Actually I donot know if AGS GX165 has same amps as phoenix UGS-175.....

UGS 175 is specially made for use with invertor/ups. It has 21 plates/cell thicker plates...it has 135 ampers as Ags 175 has.....i consider ugs series of phoenix ...the best

[Ishtiaq778]

Bro why from hall road, local UPS technicians k pass ni hoti ye kit???

Ye hall road par exactly kahan hai Imran Brothers ki shop???

And module kya cheez hain???

Dear any good shop of ups spare parts have this kit....from Hall road u can get this from 90 shops out of 100. Its manufacturers are at mughal center ...

[nasirjavaid]

Anyone using Phoenix UGS 175 battery? HOw is its backup? I need to run 2 fans ?
I previously used AGS GX 165 with homage 1001, in first year its backup on two 56" celing fans was upto 3.5 hours Can I expect same with phoenix UGS 175???
Actually I donot know if AGS GX165 has same amps as phoenix UGS-175.....

I am using it. Bought 3 month ago. Yesterday light was off for 3 hours and on 2 fans and 2 lights load, it was at 11.72volts. The light was disturbed whole night like coming 10-20 mins and going off for 30 mins to an Hor but didn't felt anything like low battery.

I have set low battery on 11.50 but still not reached it

[nasirjavaid]

Bro why from hall road, local UPS technicians k pass ni hoti ye kit???

Ye hall road par exactly kahan hai Imran Brothers ki shop???

And module kya cheez hain???

Yes, you can get from any local shop but the will charge more. I was asked 3500rs to change kit+module but I bought both in 2000rs and paid 600 to ups guy for fitting and saved 900.
Module is the 3rd main component after transformer and kit.

[jamalkhanjani]

All thanks to @talhawaleed
I just placed my order for gravity water and distilled water in Lahore from Pyrochem pvt LTD,
All I wanted to know that Pyrochem water is already in required gravity do I still need to buy a Hydrometer? is there any benifit of having it?

[talhawaleed]

All thanks to @talhawaleed
I just placed my order for gravity water and distilled water in Lahore from Pyrochem pvt LTD,
All I wanted to know that Pyrochem water is already in required gravity do I still need to buy a Hydrometer? is there any benifit of having it?

Hydrometer is a must equipment for every house which has a lead acid battery being used on UPS. normally their electrolyte is prepared, hydrometer is a good cheap took for worth Rs. 150 with which you can verify things and later will be used for testing.

[janetfdoss]

The first scene is possible but the 2nd one is not possible because the noise of fan can not be reduced by stabilizer as far as i think.

[murtaza.ajmi.3]

The first scene is possible but the 2nd one is not possible because the noise of fan can not be reduced by stabilizer as far as i think.

if the UPS is PURE SINE WAVE then there will be no humming / noise from the fan at all

[jamalkhanjani]

@talhawaleed @ishtiaq778

I just purchased electrolyte for my new phoenix UGS-175 battery, I'm little confused Can anyone please confirm the following

So far what I uderstood these are the steps
1-Pour the "company provided electrolyte" to lower level or bottom level line of Battery (My confusion why not up to top level?)
2- leave it for 30 minutes
3-Charge the battery (for 40 minutes as per manual provided with battery)
4-Add distilled water to maximum fill level or upper line (my confusion is wouldn't it change the gravity?)
5-charge again
6- Its done

Also I'm using homage 1001 is it ok for first charge? because its going to fast charge it round 10amp

[talhawaleed]

@talhawaleed @Ishtiaq778

I just purchased electrolyte for my new phoenix UGS-175 battery, I'm little confused Can anyone please confirm the following

So far what I uderstood these are the steps
1-Pour the "company provided electrolyte" to lower level or bottom level line of Battery (My confusion why not up to top level?)
2- leave it for 30 minutes
3-Charge the battery (for 40 minutes as per manual provided with battery)
4-Add distilled water to maximum fill level or upper line (my confusion is wouldn't it change the gravity?)
5-charge again
6- Its done

Also I'm using homage 1001 is it ok for first charge? because its going to fast charge it round 10amp

yes, it would change the gravity, do not fill the electrolyte till the top level as indicated, just keep it little below. After one or two cycles of charging, fill the remaining electrolyte to its full level. People normally do this because after flush, they experience increase in level of electrolyte in battery but since your battery is new so you may not experience the same thing.