Misconceptions about HIDs & Projectors!

[daniyalahmad]

Indeed an informative thread
hope that this effort of yours will help in educating people who just push their headlights to the highest possible level
even if HID is not installed they still will switch on the high beams :S

[khahsan]

i tried 100/90 halogen in my baleno headlamp. but still the vision is not clear.
any suggestions.... ?
can i replace the glass headlights with crystal ones?

[villain]

Okay if your talking about cost effective than here are my recommendations.

The most easily available in Pakistan would be the Phillips Rally bulb which runs at a higher wattage than stock bulbs in cars.That would get you the best results while keeping your pocket all filled up.

Now, if you are willing to spend the equivalent of HID money and want better results, than go for the Phillips X-Treme Bulbs, you will have to import them as they are not available in Pakistan.Phillips X-Tremes are by far the best Halogen bulbs without question.

An alternate to the X-Tremes would be the Osram Night Breakers, which you would also have to import.

So I'll conclude and suggest that go for the Phillips Rally bulbs and also install fog lights with yellow bulbs.

I got a new battery today.. 50amp -- and thanks for the advice I got ur point..
so I will try to find either the Phillips Rally bulbs or Phillips X-Tremesor or Osram Night Breakers -- I hope that for all three of these I would not require a battery upgrade or any other component as is required by HID.
Finally suggest that do i need to change the whole beam or beam cover of my Cultus its 2003 model and it was not with crystal beams so its the old cover...

[villain]

and yeah where to find any one of these 3 options in Lahore.. I know Elahi Auto in Montgomery road only

[rusty_racer94]

I agree with you on this....Ireland has roads with only one lane and the young guys with HIDs are really blinding at night !!
But the stock projectors of Nissan Qashqai are also blinding during day time.. :S

[ahmedshaikhani]

After market projection lights comes with Halogen bulb projection lens. If we want to install HID do we have to replace halogen bulb projection lens with HID projection lens ?

[MominHaq]

i tried 100/90 halogen in my baleno headlamp. but still the vision is not clear.
any suggestions.... ?
can i replace the glass headlights with crystal ones?

First try to get your headlamps cleaned from the inside, if that fails then get new set of headlamps.

I got a new battery today.. 50amp -- and thanks for the advice I got ur point..
so I will try to find either the Phillips Rally bulbs or Phillips X-Tremesor or Osram Night Breakers -- I hope that for all three of these I would not require a battery upgrade or any other component as is required by HID.
Finally suggest that do i need to change the whole beam or beam cover of my Cultus its 2003 model and it was not with crystal beams so its the old cover...

and yeah where to find any one of these 3 options in Lahore.. I know Elahi Auto in Montgomery road only

You won't need a new battery, halogens are plug and play.You'll easily find the Phillips rally bulbs in car accessory shops(I'm not familiar with lahore), but you won't find the X-Tremes or the Nightbreakers anywhere, you'll have to import them from abroad.

Cultus uses an H4 bulb, such bulbs have two filaments in their glass capsule(one for high beam and one for low beam), so you will need to buy H4 bulbs and thats all.

After market projection lights comes with Halogen bulb projection lens. If we want to install HID do we have to replace halogen bulb projection lens with HID projection lens ?

Its not just lens but the the reflector as well.

If you want to install HID's in your aftermarket halogen projector then you only need to install an HID as normal and use the right bulb like H7,H11 etc.

But, I would strongly advise against that.

[86rocker]

^ Nice informative post thanks for sharing with us. .... ..

[oforomer]

positively informative. hi5 ur ways. i'd now glow my ta22 wid Phillips two pair of X-Treme and the fog lamps with a pair of Phillips Rally bulbs. What do you suggest, would it be perfect with the old-school circular (assy.) diamond-type reflectors n housing(s)?

[MominHaq]

Thanks for the compliments.

Yup X-Tremes are perfect (they only come in h4,h7 and last one I can't recall).

Your location shows Lahore,so you will have to import them, but they are worth it.

For the fogs,go for good quality yellow ones,I suggest nokya's if you can get your hands on them.

I say yellow because it is the best color for inclement weather.

The rally is also very good(cheaper also).

All the above will be good for your car.

[oforomer]

i'll make a couple of calls to see whether X-Tremes are already available with someone. Thx for detailed reply n qualitative advice bro:-)

[MominHaq]

Sure, anytime.

Sorry but I did not mention bulbs which you should get, if you can't find the X-Tremes.

The Osram Night Breakers are very good as well(you'll also have to import them)

[oforomer]

well, i had already gone thru da thread and read about Osram Nightbreakers too, they're not only in my list but also have been searched for and tracked down on ebay (germany) so far. Prior to ordering them to be delivered at my cousins' at germany, I'd search for all or whatever available at lahore & Islamabad inshaAllah you're so right when you say they're worth it!

btw, i am not an expert n dunno da different between H4 & H7... can you please guide me which ones to order?

[oforomer]

for all readers, if it circumstantially might be of your concern:

Phillips X-Treme
Philips XtremePower H4 (80% mehr) Xenon Xtreme Power bei eBay.de: Lichter Leuchten (endet 15.01.10 17:33:30 MEZ)

Phillips Rally:
2 x H4 12V 100/90W RALLY - PHILIPS P43t 12569 HOCHWATT bei eBay.de: Lichter Leuchten (endet 13.01.10 14:35:43 MEZ)

Osram Nightbreakers:
OSRAM Nightbreaker H4 DUO Pack NEUES MODELL +90% Licht bei eBay.de: Lichter Leuchten (endet 04.01.10 16:39:32 MEZ)

[MominHaq]

well, i had already gone thru da thread and read about Osram Nightbreakers too, they're not only in my list but also have been searched for and tracked down on ebay (germany) so far. Prior to ordering them to be delivered at my cousins' at germany, I'd search for all or whatever available at lahore & Islamabad inshaAllah you're so right when you say they're worth it!

btw, i am not an expert n dunno da different between H4 & H7... can you please guide me which ones to order?

H4,H7,H11 are different type of bulbs with different connectors/bases.

Every car uses one or the other.

I am not aware of what bulb your car uses but I can say it is not the H4 because your car has two separate housings for beam/4 in total.

To find out you are going to have to take the bulb out and see for your self( I tried to search the internet for the bulb specs but found nothing)

[oforomer]

well, my car HAD two seperate beam assemblies (yes right, 4 in total). as i have been doing some cosmetic modifications and as i have already bought a new (Suzuki Bolan's circular/round beam with it's own housing bcoz it's with diamond/crystal reflector n glass). I believe that would do, what do you say?

[MominHaq]

well, my car HAD two seperate beam assemblies (yes right, 4 in total). as i have been doing some cosmetic modifications and as i have already bought a new (Suzuki Bolan's circular/round beam with it's own housing bcoz it's with diamond/crystal reflector n glass). I believe that would do, what do you say?

Ok that makes it easy for me then.

Bolan uses H4

[fahdlovespak]

bro i have vitz 2002 model and i wana use good bulbs for bumpers and headlites...which bulb i should use? is vitz hai h3 or h4 bulbs?

[imtishal]

Very informative thread indeed.
Q : does the halogen's u mentioned (Phillips etc) comes in other colors like white,or yellowish white.

[taim00r]

One question, i am planning to install HID in projectors of a 95 civic . Any idea anout the heat HIDs generate? hope they wont melt my light!!