Need advice on tyres

[HellsGuardian]

I always use Michelin and personally not in favour of too soft tyres such as yokos and continental.

[anarkaliantiques]

175/65/15 is stock honda city 2009-2021 tyre size, very common. Eurostar or Mirage in this size are easily available at tyrepoint.pk and Metro

[mehran]

Yes, that may be possible. Wider tyres may cause unnecessary strain on steering mechanism. It's best to stick to stock size or maybe go over just a little.

[anarkaliantiques]

Dear Michelin is very expensive and unless yearly usage is more than 25-30k km it is a waste of money as they have a shorter lifespan, They start to crack(dry rot) just ahead of 3 years as i have used them in my own ride for 4+ years only putting 90,000km on them and still lot of tread remaining but cracks start to appear and becomes unsafe for highway use.

[syeddanishanwar]

tyrepoint.pk

What tire brand are you using on your personal car? And for how long?

[anarkaliantiques]

ES32 - Yokohama BluEarth

[syeddanishanwar]

Thanks for the reply. Which tire do you recommend: Continental CC6 or Yokohama ES32?

Does ES32 get punctured easily or not?

My drive is mostly through rough roads (pot holes, damaged roads, etc.) in Karachi so I am looking for a rugged and reliable tire brand. The price of both are nearly the same. Which one do you recommend?

After reviewing the features, the ES32 seems better as the description at Tyrepoint.pk says it has wet grip and wear resistance. CC6 online reviews reflect that it does not have a good wet grip. But what are your actual experience regarding the wear and tear of your current tires particularly on rough roads?

[anarkaliantiques]

One thing that i learned from tyre shopping is stick to a budget, if you have open wallet then go for the most expensive option i.e: Michelin @17k per tyre

Secondly, the base line - which meets your requirement 90% but is far from luxury or comfort i.e: Eurostar, Mirage, Sailun, AThree, Comforser, these are tried and tested tyres good for 50k+ kms and can take a beating, easy to replace and cheap 6k per tyre.

Third is a happy medium, which i recommend with a big IF.

Yokohama is not meant for bumpy roads, It is more of a touring tyre (good for highway speeds on clean roads) and somewhat clean urban roads. Can take a bump or two but not at all rural.

Now the happy medium doesn’t suit in your case, so either go with Michelins, Pirelli, Dunlop Veuro, any good brand with higher load rating 91-95-98 H-V-T-W

I bought ES32 with a 95V rating, which is an entirely different animal from the 88H tyrepoint sells, same tyre but the higher load rating means slightly better chances of taking a beating.

[anarkaliantiques]

Which tire do you recommend: Continental CC6 or Yokohama ES32?

Continental is a boutique brand, like Adidas, you wouldn’t want to take your nice shoes into a steel factory would you? You need steel toe shoes. Dress appropriately.

[syeddanishanwar]

Third is a happy medium, which i recommend with a big IF.

Yokohama is not meant for bumpy roads, It is more of a touring tyre (good for highway speeds on clean roads) and somewhat clean urban roads. Can take a bump or two but not at all rural.

Now the happy medium doesn’t suit in your case, so either go with Michelins, Pirelli, Dunlop Veuro, any good brand with higher load rating 91-95-98 H-V-T-W

I bought ES32 with a 95V rating, which is an entirely different animal from the 88H tyrepoint sells, same tyre but the higher load rating means slightly better chances of taking a beating.

Ok. Thank you for the detailed and technical reply. I will keep these tips in mind particularly the load rating when tire shopping.

I guess I should cut down Yoko from my list as about 80 percent roads in Karachi are in bad shape. I have a budget between Rs. 54k to 70k for the four tyres.

CC6 costs about 54k while Michelin XM2 will cost me 70k.

BTW, my car Honda Reborn that I had bought about a week ago has currently Bridgestone Ecopia installed (about 7 years old as mfg date on tyre is 2014). It is in bad shape and the dealer who sold me recommended changing the tyres. Do you recommend Ecopia, Michelin Energy XM2, or Continental CC6 for me? I want a high resistance and durable tire brand.

PS. I have reviewed videos of Michelin Energy XM2. Its performance on rough road conditions does look impressive.

The reviews of this tyre are good are well.

well iv'e been using Michelin energy xm2 for the past two months now(6500 km) in my honda city, upgraded from dunlop gt soft ones, and from my experience they're worth every penny, yes the tires are hard and expensive than the advan db but the thing is i needed hard tyres due to karachi roads and interior trips my car makes every month. I'll list the top notes I've experienced with these tyres. Hard to drive on rough roads but smooth as butter on well paved roads( given the car i have and it…

I appreciate that you took the time to post a reply regarding my query. May Allah bless you since a good advise is a sadqa. I have decided to go for Michelin Energy XM2 as they are great for our Karachi roads.

[anarkaliantiques]

XM2 is an amazing tyre, although i personally used the ENERGY Saver+ Michelins are very resistant to punctures, even at the end of their life had a large screw jammed into the outer treads and upon removal there was no air leakage, it did not go through and the tyre never lost an inch of air, atleast a full 1” screw with sharp edges and threads.

[incognito59]

Steermatic stock was 185 55 15

[mehran]

Sir, if you going to use the tyres primarily for driving in Karachi then General Eurostars should do the job well. Yoko ES32 is best in wet weather whereas it hardly ever rains in Karachi. Eurostars are tough and hard tyres and should be OK.

[anarkaliantiques]

Second that, for rough roads use EuroStar 195’s in civic reborn, cheap and tough, civic is already pretty comfortable that your ride quality wont get affected.

[HellsGuardian]

Michelin is 15k

[HellsGuardian]

a tyre should be used for a maximum 5 years from date of manufacture. So if cracks are appearing after 4+ years then its supposed to be changed any way. Yokos and conti are too soft, you get tons of punctures and sidewall damage even in a city such as Lahore.

You ran your tyres for 90k km?

[HellsGuardian]

How Michlein will cost your 70k? all official dealers are willing to sell you for 15-15.5k max. Adjust old tyres and you got a deal within 60k.
Kindly see the posts above, i shared list of official dealers. You can also get in touch with OP as he recently bought them. You can always call zafar enterprise the Michelin importer in Pakistan about a product and its genuineness

[syeddanishanwar]

Thank you for the info.
The quoted price per tire is Rs. 17.5k at tyrepoint.pk. I haven't contacted the official dealers at the moment. I will now research about the price before buying.

https://tyrepoint.pk/product/michelin-xm2-195-65-r15/

[syeddanishanwar]

EuroStar 195’s

Ok, thank for the advise. General EuroStar tires will save me about Rs.36k in place of Michelin XM2.

I have a General Euro stock tire in my company Mehran. It is hard and rarely gets punctured.

Personally I don't have any qualms about General tires that is made in Pakistan. But most reviews by fellow PWs is not good about General. That is the reason I was not going for this tire; otherwise it is extremely cheap.

[anarkaliantiques]

If company is spending money, then sure Michelin all the way, but if its going out of your pocket then EuroStars will do just fine and keep in mind these are very tough tyres and their new plant has the latest tech and is set up in association with Germanys continental.