Nikon DSLR D7000 vs Nikon DSLR D5100

[VCheng]

yes i have heard alot about the sigma 18-200mm ... alot of shopowners said that it is better then the nikon 18-200mm... one of the pros magazine also said it... but online, i dont see much about it...

I have one; it is great as a walkabout lens.

[Porsche_Maker]

Instead of the kit lens, I would suggest a Sigma 18-200 as the first lens on the D7K.

@VCheng
How much the Sigma Costs and how about the availability of that in Pakistan as here in Islamabad i am not able to find any Camera specific big shop who stocks all things related to camera as many only gets order and then will arrange from Karachi or some other place. I dont know why that 18-105 is not on my wish list as 50mm, 18-55 or if 18-200 Sigma then it will be only one Prime and 18-200.

[jazzy77]

Instead of the kit lens, I would suggest a Sigma 18-200 as the first lens on the D7K.

Sir please compare it with Nikon 18-200mm VR as it one of the lenses I wish to get first.

[enerlevel]

Sir please compare it with Nikon 18-200mm VR as it one of the lenses I wish to get first.

I have the Nikon 18-200mm lens (vr II)
The lens is a mixed bag feeling lens.. At some length it's pretty sharp and in some focal length it's very soft.. All in all, the results are very very much exactly like the 18-105mm which is why I think the 18-105 is a very good lens to start with. 18-200 just has an extra range but image quality wise it remains the same ...
As for the sigma, it cost half of the Nikon 18-200 which makes it a better choice, but image wise, the Nikon will still ace it

[VCheng]

@VCheng
How much the Sigma Costs and how about the availability of that in Pakistan as here in Islamabad i am not able to find any Camera specific big shop who stocks all things related to camera as many only gets order and then will arrange from Karachi or some other place. I dont know why that 18-105 is not on my wish list as 50mm, 18-55 or if 18-200 Sigma then it will be only one Prime and 18-200.

It varies between $500-600, compared to $800-900 for the Nikon 18-200, but I have no idea about availability in Pakistan.

Sir please compare it with Nikon 18-200mm VR as it one of the lenses I wish to get first.

I have a Nikon 70-300, and between 100-200 mm, the Sigma is as sharp as the Nikon.

I have the Nikon 18-200mm lens (vr II)
The lens is a mixed bag feeling lens.. At some length it's pretty sharp and in some focal length it's very soft.. All in all, the results are very very much exactly like the 18-105mm which is why I think the 18-105 is a very good lens to start with. 18-200 just has an extra range but image quality wise it remains the same ...
As for the sigma, it cost half of the Nikon 18-200 which makes it a better choice, but image wise, the Nikon will still ace it

Between 100-200 mm, there is hardly any difference between the two, and the sigma is much better value in this case.

[jazzy77]

Still I will go for 18-200 VR(old) Insha'Allah !

[qwertypoiu]

its all about man behind the cam :p.
Btw if you can easily go for the d7000 then buy it.
Bigger the better.

[khurram_aziz]

@khurram

Thanks for Syggestion, While you are a Canon Boy but already i am going through a Review of the 7D on dpreview, but till now i havent been in Canon House as to noise aspects i am not impressed with canon but will consider how much price it is available and how about the lens kit with package.

Canon EOS 7D Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review

So how was it? :-#

[Porsche_Maker]

So how was it? :-#

Hell busy in office things and almost have no time and schedule is busy for this week so thinking to read it on the coming long weekend

But things which really bothers me to check in Canon House are new AF system with a dedicated processor, dual Digic 4 processors and a new shutter mechanism to allow 8fps continuous shooting, and the ability to control groups of external flashguns using its built-in flash. However, the updates extend beyond these big-feature changes to include a variety of tweaks, refinements and additions. Make no mistake, Canon wants to be the default choice again as currently Nikon is enjoying its dominance.

I saw your thread you are more Portrait Photographer while i want to capture some outdoor fun, how about that, as 600D in Low Light and Noise is much higher in tests, how about you, as you are spending alot of money on the Accessories especially the Flash, why dont you upgrade the body also.

[Porsche_Maker]

I heard on some forum of D7000 some Oil Splashing (Wording used on that forum) Problem, can anyone confirm and provide detail of that and proper solution. As my knowledge in the DSLR is very limited till now

[TypeR]

d7000 is certainly better , having the same sensor doesnt make both sam, its the added features hich the d7000 has.....
and 50mm f1.8g is for 22-24k, wheras the the older version of this lens 50mm 1.8d is for 11k..

Where can I find 50mm f1.8g for 22-24k ? Been looking for this lens .

[Porsche_Maker]

Where can I find 50mm f1.8g for 22-24k ? Been looking for this lens .

Have you checked the CAMTRONIX and which city u wants to get guide

[enerlevel]

Hell busy in office things and almost have no time and schedule is busy for this week so thinking to read it on the coming long weekend

But things which really bothers me to check in Canon House are new AF system with a dedicated processor, dual Digic 4 processors and a new shutter mechanism to allow 8fps continuous shooting, and the ability to control groups of external flashguns using its built-in flash. However, the updates extend beyond these big-feature changes to include a variety of tweaks, refinements and additions. Make no mistake, Canon wants to be the default choice again as currently Nikon is enjoying its dominance.

I saw your thread you are more Portrait Photographer while i want to capture some outdoor fun, how about that, as 600D in Low Light and Noise is much higher in tests, how about you, as you are spending alot of money on the Accessories especially the Flash, why dont you upgrade the body also.

there is a difference in noise at high ISO on the canon vs nikon APS-C sensors but it is not THAT much of a difference.
i have experience with alot of camera bodies and lens.. and to tell you the truth, the nikon d7000 and the d600 have only about 1 stop advantage between them. if you need to get good performance at 3000-6400 iso, u have to get a full frame sensor..

as i said before, canon has better lens and nikon makes better bodies...
dont confuse yourself. just get the nikon d7000 and stay happy.
the canon 7d is much expensive then the nikon d7000 therefore its not worth spending so much for the same APS-C sensor.

[Porsche_Maker]

there is a difference in noise at high ISO on the canon vs nikon APS-C sensors but it is not THAT much of a difference.
i have experience with alot of camera bodies and lens.. and to tell you the truth, the nikon d7000 and the d600 have only about 1 stop advantage between them. if you need to get good performance at 3000-6400 iso, u have to get a full frame sensor..

as i said before, canon has better lens and nikon makes better bodies...
dont confuse yourself. just get the nikon d7000 and stay happy.
the canon 7d is much expensive then the nikon d7000 therefore its not worth spending so much for the same APS-C sensor.

Till now Canon 7D is not on the list just reading its Review and thats it, adding some information. (A) Still inspired by Nikon D7k

[HAshims]

i am going to get d5100 in this week inshAllah. D7000 is no doubt a great camera but d5100 is half of the price of d7000. Right now i guess d5100 will do the job for me.
Yes lens for d5100 are expensive.

[khurram_aziz]

I saw your thread you are more Portrait Photographer while i want to capture some outdoor fun, how about that, as 600D in Low Light and Noise is much higher in tests, how about you, as you are spending alot of money on the Accessories especially the Flash, why dont you upgrade the body also.

there is a difference in noise at high ISO on the canon vs nikon APS-C sensors but it is not THAT much of a difference.
i have experience with alot of camera bodies and lens.. and to tell you the truth, the nikon d7000 and the d600 have only about 1 stop advantage between them. if you need to get good performance at 3000-6400 iso, u have to get a full frame sensor..

I second enerlevel; I tested D5100; the difference is not that much and that too is controllable. Savings and accessability of EF/EFS lenses and EOS accessories starts from the first prime / flashgun and this is huge; atleast for me.

You use whatever brand and whatever sensor; lighting makes the key impact and flashgun is the best investment.

But things which really bothers me to check in Canon House are new AF system with a dedicated processor, dual Digic 4 processors and a new shutter mechanism to allow 8fps continuous shooting, and the ability to control groups of external flashguns using its built-in flash. However, the updates extend beyond these big-feature changes to include a variety of tweaks, refinements and additions. Make no mistake, Canon wants to be the default choice again as currently Nikon is enjoying its dominance.

I almost had finalized the Canon 7D body only from Singapore; langotia buddy coming in christmas holidays. But now thinking February had been the month Canon announces new stuff; after couple of month they might announce Digic V based 70D or 8D :-#

[Porsche_Maker]

i am going to get d5100 in this week inshAllah. D7000 is no doubt a great camera but d5100 is half of the price of d7000. Right now i guess d5100 will do the job for me.
Yes lens for d5100 are expensive.

no doubt its great buy and its biggest attraction is its Price for Articulated Screen i am not fascinated as till 170' the other LCD also works, but D7000 is long term investment as Lens gonna pay back and then Prosumer Category.

I second enerlevel; I tested D5100; the difference is not that much and that too is controllable. Savings and accessability of EF/EFS lenses and EOS accessories starts from the first prime / flashgun and this is huge; atleast for me.

You use whatever brand and whatever sensor; lighting makes the key impact and flashgun is the best investment.

I almost had finalized the Canon 7D body only from Singapore; langotia buddy coming in christmas holidays. But now thinking February had been the month Canon announces new stuff; after couple of month they might announce Digic V based 70D or 8D :-#

No doubt D5100 is great for any person who is going to become some DSLR snapper, but how if saving 40000 gonna end up 60000 on Lens in 1-2 years as once you into the DSLR World its immensely deep. Accessories are big part of the joy as you keep experimenting lights, shadows, and many things.

Why dont you make a dip in the Nikon House, may be it worths as 7D is great buy but isnt it now Old enough, but your accessories of Canon need attention also if you move to Nikon.

How about shooting the Eyes can be Human or some Pets or in Telephoto for Bird although it will be hard job.

[enerlevel]

I second enerlevel; I tested D5100; the difference is not that much and that too is controllable. Savings and accessability of EF/EFS lenses and EOS accessories starts from the first prime / flashgun and this is huge; atleast for me.

You use whatever brand and whatever sensor; lighting makes the key impact and flashgun is the best investment.

I almost had finalized the Canon 7D body only from Singapore; langotia buddy coming in christmas holidays. But now thinking February had been the month Canon announces new stuff; after couple of month they might announce Digic V based 70D or 8D :-#

With the increasing rate of markII , I don't think anything new is going to come in soon.... Upgrading from 600d to 7d is just wasting money ... Just upgrade to 5d mark II

[aesiege]

Nikon D7000 is the way to go.

I had same illusion one year before that there isn't much difference between Canon 550D and Canon 60D/7D as all have same sensors.

BUT .... while having same sensors, the performance and focusing capabilities of other two are much better with some other important features which now i feel i should have in my cam after using Canon 550D for one year.

However, for a person who is new to photography, these differences will not matter as u can only feel and notice the performance and other differences when u have some experience and know that what u need and what u miss in different situations.

Comparison
The biggest difference would be focus points:
D7000 is 39 with 9 cross type and D5100 is 11 with 1 cross type. Cross type points are more sensitive to focusing mechanism and give much better chance and more options to focus. Non-cross types either follow horizontal line for contrast detection or vertical line but cross types run on both vertical and horizontal lines to detect contrast for focus and give u much higher chances of achieving better focus. And u also have 30 more horizontal or vertical focus points in D7000 as compared to 10 of D5100.

Focus motor for auto focus is another nikon specific plus for D7000 which allows to focus with cheaper nikon lenses.

Battery life is double. I really miss this as Canon 550D is not that good in battery performance.

FPS rate is only important if u want to shoot fast moving subjects like sports, races, birds etc. otherwise it won't be important.

The viewfinder is bigger, more clear and brighter of D7000 as compared to D5100 which comes in handy.

Couple of other differences are 1/8000 of shutter speed in D7000 as compared to 1/4000 of D5100 which really freezes water shots if u like to shoot water and 2 memory card slots in D7000 as compared to one of D5100.

Also, D7000 is weather sealed.

But D5100 is cheaper, lighter and smaller and u can hardly tell the difference in shots unless u do pixel peep or know already where to look for difference

But that is true for many other canon nikon wars :).

Also D5100 has fully articulated LCD.

[khurram_aziz]

With the increasing rate of markII , I don't think anything new is going to come in soon.... Upgrading from 600d to 7d is just wasting money ... Just upgrade to 5d mark II

Roger; but mid next year...the secret account from my better half will have the required funds by then for full frame with some "L" goodness