Personal experience & comparison of Wagon R VXL 2019 with Alto VXL AGS 2020

[dms664]

how u compare Wagon r with ur vitz 2008?

[dms664]

Yes that's probably because they have tweaked it for Pakistani environment, hence the annoying engine sound, better pickup. Interestingly the Japanese AGS Altos are quiter and shift a little better too.

jap alto is cvt

[chinyoti]

WagonR is dabba, Vitz is miles apart.

[chinyoti]

All the basic variants, and all the variants without ecoidle And with triptronic transmission (+ - ) are AGS variants. Just that the japanese AGS version has a park option to.

[dms664]

what are benefits of ceramic coat? is the hype real?

[dms664]

The account of your struggle in finding a good used car starting from a Khyber up to late model Vitz and corresponding range from 4 lacs to 17 lacs covers the complete thought process of how one ends up in buying New Suzuki Vehicles (rather it be WagonR, Alto, Cultus or even Swift). As I have been buying and selling cars very frequently (for myself and close friends and family), I made a very tough checklist for checking out used cars. The checklist is so tough that finding a suitable car even takes months and sometimes years . And you can't waste months or even weeks searching a car that you will change in 2 years thus new cars with good resale is the solution.

The person to whom I sold my WagonR also didn't like the new Alto that's why in the same budget he purchased a one year old Wagon R.

could you be kind to share that checklist?

[sayedarsalanali]

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[sayedarsalanali]

Check my other thread, recently sold City '14 which was purchased brand new too. And I will repeat here that you need to be a bit polite in sharing your opinion.

[sayedarsalanali]

Can't say, till now I feel that it is good but not some miracle. The car still needs to be washed using car shampoo on weekly basis.

[sayedarsalanali]

Will document and share with you in message.

[Luke_mani]

Interesting thread. Can someone post a comparison between cvt and ags transmission of Alto PKDM and JDM? Actual driving experience would be helpful. I feel that cvt is smoother and gives better mileage.

[sayedarsalanali]

Very nice comparison brother. Want to add a few comments on your analysis:

I think the build quality of both Wagon R and Alto is same. It would be very helpful if you can elaborate how you analysed it.

Yes, WagonR's cabin is less noisy as compared to Alto, and the major difference is the irritating engine noise coming in the cabin.

Air-conditioning of Wagon R is very good and it enhanced further after I got Sungard Installed on all windows (including the Windscreen) , I recommend this if you plan to keep the vehicle for another year or two. For the Alto, I will only be able to comment after I use it in the extreme summers.

[saqibhassan95]

@saad.ikram.5688

[sayedarsalanali]

Brother my cousin has the CVT version of the Alto and I have driven it a few times. The CVT version for sure is smoother in the gear shifts, but with the passage of time I am getting used to the AGS and now I am able to get the gear shifted without jerks after the car crosses 2nd gear. By theory AGS should be more fuel economical as compared to the CVT, but the CVT vehicle comes with ENE Charge and is driven of Hi-Octane thus it gives better average.

[sayedarsalanali]

JDM with CVT transmission.

[mohammadali_1]

Apologies from the core of my heart brother if even a single word sounded rude to you. Editted my post and neutralised it a bit.

I hope its not offending anymore.

Thanks

[sayedarsalanali]

I am really thankful to you for reconsidering the posts. The only purpose of this thread is to share real experience of these cars to help others in making their buying decision.

You have shared your valuable input here and I hope will continue sharing your experience and knowledge so others can benefit from it. Hope there are no hard feelings.

[saad.ikram.5688]

I haven't seen any difference in mileage. My JDM Alto with CVT gives lesser mileage than VXL but again my JDM Alto is 5-6 years old and has clocked 65k km.
When i bought it new it was 5200km driven and mileage i used to get was 23-25
Now mileage i get is 21-22
VXL gives me mileage 23-24

So i would call that negligible difference in mileage in both cars.

Now coming to the feel and driving experience of both CVT is a please while AGS feels like an extremely inexperienced driver is sitting inside the engine bay and ghenta lga k clutch dba k gear change kar rha hai.
I would seriously compare that to a khota gaari jis mein the donkey gets tired and you hit him tou aik dam se gear change k sath jhatka and speed pakar li next gear mein.

Does one get used to it ?
Yes definitely you get used to it and feels like normal because you learn the pedal feel k kitni speed pe kitna pedal ko chorna hai tou foran gear change ho gaye ga tou uske baad normal hi lagta hai . You dont feel k buri transmission hai

My JDM went out of town for a week and i got used to AGS until it came back and now i have both some time driving one and some time the other and it feels like hell driving the AGS.
If you dont have a second car thats even an simple auto then theak hai you wont feel anything

But if you have a second car that has a auto trans or CVT then uske sath AGS chalana bas se bahar hai

[dms664]

i test drove both and jdm alto with cvt is butter smooth while the pkdm ags is jerky and takes time in downshift if u floor the pedal. ppl say that one get used to with ags over period of time.

[dms664]

the JDM got S mode button on the shifter. is there any in the pkdm alto ags. i couldn't find any in my test drive. also there is no P mode so how the car is parked?