Rakaposhi trek in a Rush,and a night on the bank of naltar lake

[rehankillbill]

Thanks alot danish bhai its mean alot to me I've checked your thread which you mention above, your advice will really help me out and almost 10 days left and you cannot imagine how curious I'm right now to go there

[conflicted]

know the land u r going to breathe in, respect and honor local's beliefs and traditions. be their guest and remember ur gun cant save u but ur intelligence and humbleness with the will of god.

[dangtepau]

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[asattar1995]

Agreed. I have taught my family to collect garbage in one bag while traveling and when we stop somewhere, throw it in proper place. You see, charity begins at home. If we teach our children the moral values, future will be good.

[conflicted]

that seems "being selfish" but in my point of view, i am against road building since ages due to same aspect. i have written an article .. part of which is :

Civic senses end where road reaches...
I have seen Muree deteriorate.
I witnessed spoiling of Kaghan valley.
I bear the pain of seeing Mallamjabba n Mingora losing their charm.
My extreme north of pak was civilized. Educated ones n humanitarian. News are reaching that something bad initiates there as well.
What was the reason of this harm...
I am known to that Muree where on mall i roam alone or could see only one or two others. Locals were extremely helpfull.
I have passed a night in a mosque in naran coz there was no hotel n i reached late (at 8 pm) no one was on road. It took 16 hrs to reach naran (1989). I reached babusar top after walking 3 days n it was tranquil up there (2003).
Distruction of swat is not an old story. Gun powder takes away the humanity as well.
One ordinary factor among all these happening is birth of highways n ease of access. But it is the right of local population. And its not they who spoiled every thing. They were living there since ages.
The problem lies in us. Who live in cities full of universities n educational institutions. We, the literate n wearing white collars think that we are educated cause we have degrees from prestigious universities.
Hello educators n policy makers... hello managers of our so called civilized society. Wake up... come on n see wat kind of society you are building and what kind of education you are providing. Where ever we reach we spoil that region and also the people of that region.
O policy makers and decion takers wake up. Its actually your mistake that we think, we are literate ones but we are not actually. And its your mistake that we think that man wid dirty clothes with knowledge of centuries in heart is illetrate.
I wish that road building may end until we get real education and stop invading every place that has charm in her.

[hnawaz]

Yes Exactly! asattar1995 Brother! Mine too, its even my son habit also that whatever he eats he take all of his garbage in a big shopper that is every time available in my driving seat pocket, and then dispose off when look proper place.

Allah hamaray hall pay reham karay bus (Ameen)

[asattar1995]

A great article brother. I second you.

[conflicted]

i am preaching the same thing since decades, have carried out multiple cleaning expeditions... but now,,, i am disappointed. problem lies somewhere else.

problem lies in the basic upbringing of our whole society. we contribute nothing to society and hope for a good future.

one solution that i am doing is passing time with kids of 10 to 15 years of age in gali mohalla and whereever i can...
trying to involve them in healthy activities like gardening or sports and ethics of living...
we are the spoiled age, our youngsters may be civilized if we practically educate the little ones. and i am sorry, we (as a whole) are not doing so.

[asattar1995]

You are correct. To change society behaviors we have to change ourselves first, our living environment first, our own moral values first. Your way of educating the kids is great. If we all think like that, a better society can be achieved.

[conflicted]

just a day in a week is not a big deal but it can have a great impact ....

however, as i say, i am doing so but i am not very much hopeful considering the whole nation.

[conflicted]

endless debate ,, isnt it..

so lets stop talking and start doing...

anyways, earlier whenever i post a trek, i got many many many questions abt that trek.

this time, there are no questions regarding rakaposhi and diran peaks.... well may be its not more appealing like my earlier travels...

[asattar1995]

May be due to time constrains of the Pakwheelers. For me, its a destination which is in my wishlist for so long time. Kaash, mujhay 10 din ki vacations milen aur mein foran pohanch jaun with family, kaash !!!

[rehankillbill]

know the land u r going to breathe in, respect and honor local's beliefs and traditions. be their guest and remember ur gun cant save u but ur intelligence and humbleness with the will of god.

Sir meri to traveling samjhe 2 years start howe hain meri hamesha yeh koshish hoti hai jah jaho mein ache se logo se milo onke tradition ko samjho nature ko enjoy karo or ise mein he asal maza hai ..

2ndly ek cheez btata ho mein ek mohale mein rehta hoon jah bht budilings galiyan hain bara bazaar hai app yakeen nahi karoge itna kachra phekte hain log khud or phir khete hain ke gaindagi ki howe hai mein jab galiyon se guzarta hoon to dil bht jalta hai ke yaar inko koi hidayat de ke apne gharo ko jis tarah saaf rakhte ho waise he in galiyon ko bhe saaf rakha jaye , meri gali mein Salman bhai meri baraber wali budling mein rehte hain woh roz hamari gali mein jharo lagate hain matlab apne budling ke side or tohra as paas taake koi gandagi na ho mein ek din onse puch rah tah k Salman bhai app roz jharo q lagate yeh ke log nahi sudrege saaf safai nahi pasand inhe to woh mushkarte howe bolte hain yaar kam se kam mein apna farz to pura ada karo taake mein kise or ko blame na kar sako jb hum khud kuch nahi karege to dusro ko kya bolege to moral of the story is hum sabko mil kar apna apna part ada karna hai baki logo ko samjhana bht mushkil hota hai !

[conflicted]

Sir meri to traveling samjhe 2 years start howe hain meri hamesha yeh koshish hoti hai jah jaho mein ache se logo se milo onke tradition ko samjho nature ko enjoy karo or ise mein he asal maza hai .. 2ndly ek cheez btata ho mein ek mohale mein rehta hoon jah bht budilings galiyan hain bara bazaar hai app yakeen nahi karoge itna kachra phekte hain log khud or phir khete hain ke gaindagi ki howe hai mein jab galiyon se guzarta hoon to dil bht jalta hai ke yaar inko koi hidayat de ke apne gharo…

Yes i am trying to do same n advocate same... we all ve to contribute within our capacities...

[conflicted]

May be due to time constrains of the Pakwheelers. For me, its a destination which is in my wishlist for so long time. Kaash, mujhay 10 din ki vacations milen aur mein foran pohanch jaun with family, kaash !!!

Chalo jab jana ho.. u can always contact...

[suhaibshaikh]

endless debate ,, isnt it..

so lets stop talking and start doing...

anyways, earlier whenever i post a trek, i got many many many questions abt that trek.

this time, there are no questions regarding rakaposhi and diran peaks.... well may be its not more appealing like my earlier travels...

This is all due to many of pakwheelers leave this forum. bcz they all shift to FB and those who are here most of them are keen to travel not trekking or hiking so who bother to inquire you about this marvelous trek and related stuff.
i am a keen trekker. did many small and medium treks from last 3 years. my all time inspiration is @asifcae. he is a real trekking guru here and he is the one who still stick to this forum to promote trekking and tourism.
with all due respect @conflicted sir you are another mentor to me. i read many of your old threads here. and this one is another addition and source to the nature loving and trekking community who didn't did this trek before for sure.
as i think and consider responsible of littering and spoiling of the natural places are all of tour operators. they just looking for their business.

[asattar1995]

Thank you very much Danish Bhai... It would be really helpful of you.

[conflicted]

sorry to all tour operators... basically to expand their business they forgot the ethical and moral responsibilities... and i do have many friends who are tour operators.. and I, most of the time oppose the idea of taking help from tour operators due to many reasons.

[asifcae]

paisa he sb kuch ha danish bhai... paisa kamai ap bhe ... baich dalay saray treks hahhahahahah...... unfortunatly many of our PWelrs have also becom tour operators....

[conflicted]

its good that passion becomes profession but yaar,,,,, kuch ethics bhi hotey,,, in my opinion, when u make ur passion a money making thing, passion gets aside....

and yaar thanks for the advise,,,bohat sey renown tour operators aaj bhi yehi poochtey keh danish yaar, tujh sey ham ney inspiration li and see how successful we are today,, tum kiyun nahi kartey.....

a simple smile is always my answer....

by the way asif,,, why dont u do so... tum bhi kamao paisa