Suzuki Khyber 1989 Restoration

[Hassan1991]

Can be. It was 6v in ae80.
Yes that's because of the cells in battery. Each cell provide 2.2v fully charged while at rest it comes down to 2.1v, you multiply it with the no. of cells battery got, result will turn out to be more then 13v.

[brownrose78]

@mustansir44
Nicely maintained. Also share your post-restoration experience.
Have you updated your Tyres or Rims or Wheel caps? As you were planning to take it for long route, my suggestion once again is to do not rely on these "Jinyu" tyres.

4 years life of them has already been passed plus their Durability and Quality is also question so keep safety as your top priority and better to upgrade to some non-Chinese brand in decent brands.

Anyways, almost 2 weeks ago, due to my hectic wok schedule and busy stuffs, i could not pay attention to my Kher-un-Nisa (Khyber) and got it serviced, after servicing during my way, one of the hose pipe got burst which resulted in instant loss of water(Coolant was not placed since last few months) but as the traffic was too much congested and so much noisy due to horn plus noise of traffic so intentionally, i did not stop car and tried to move it for further 3 to 4 Kilometres to reach to my mechanic but during this experiment, got serious dent as gasket has blown up plus plug wires got melted, car got too much overheated while Unfortunately Temperature needle inside cluster was showing temperature as Normal below half mark.

[brownrose78]

Above gasket replacement costed total Rs. 7,550 to me with this breakup:

Gasket (2.5 mm, Brand "GM"): Rs. 450

Packing (2.0 mm, Brand "Top"): Rs. 180

Plug wires (8 mm, Brand "Ultima"): Rs. 670

Shell Rimula R1 SAE-50: Rs. 2,500 (Purpose of using this Heavy duty oil after gasket replacement is that as being Diesel engine oil, this will have better cleaning ingredients and will clean it thoroughly if any residue would be there, Plan to have it changed little bit early at 3,000 Kilometres, otherwise from long time, i was using ZIC X7000 10w40 Fully Synthetic in this Khyber with change interval of 8,000 Kilometres)

Air Filter (Brand "Guard"): Rs. 450

Engine Oil Filter (Brand "Guard"): Rs. 300

Mechanic Labour cost for all of above Job: Rs. 3000

[mustansir44]

I was in shock when I saw these photos. Good to know car is running smoothly after repairs.

[mustansir44]

Another New Update and a question too:

Recently, I bought Castrol Radicool Premix SF 50/50 Coolant for Khyber. Now with a working heat gauge, I proceeded to operation "Cooling System".

Step 1) Firstly, I poured ABRO Radiator flush in the System and drove around 20-50 km to flush and clean Cooling System:

Step 2) Sourcing thermostat valve was main focus. First I tried Suzuki dealership for Mehran's Thermostat Valve(part no.: 17600-85811) but it was unavailable and I heard from different people that its diameter is small for Khyber and won't fit. Then I started looking for bolan's Thermostat Valve (Part no.: 17600-85831) and found it on Pakwheels Store. After Confirmation I ordered it.

It is Japanese and I checked it at theirs official website by part no.

Step 2) I then checked the thermostat Valve by boiling the water and dipping it in the water for 5 seconds and repeated the process 3-4 times to check its functionality:

Step 3) I then flushed cooling system of car, unbolted the water flange, installed the gasket, dressed the area with silicon sealant, installed the thermostat Valve and it clipped into position.

Step 4) Water flange was installed next but my brother over-tightened the flange bolts a little too much and it cracked due to small lips of thermostat valve as highlighted below (I am now considering torque ranch for this):

Step 5) After a minor set back new water flange was purchased with new gaskit and it was installed properly. Water was then filled in the radiator and car was started:

Step 6) Water was still in the radiator with no swirls or motion and after needle reached the half mark water level went down considerably. Water was then filled to the top and we observed swirl and motions same as before the procedure and it also indicated the thermostat valve opened up as expected:

Our plan was to drive it around 100 kms to check everything and then replace the water with coolant.

But after driving the car around for 70-80 kms or so, yesterday when I was on Shahrah-e-Faisal road I noticed the gauge rising to just below the threshold point. I steadily reached home:

I was little suspicious of radiator as well of it being not cleaned properly.

So, today I went for radiator service and found that water level was little low and also radiator is single channel (Single Nali). It is of denso and working properly and was not chocked or anything but I think it is not sufficient for our purpose now. Radiator is not stock but it is of denso single channel Alumunium which was installed 8-9 years back by my father.

Kindly guide me where to find proper and good radiator for car

[capsat]

the temp gauge in your cluster is faulty. Hafiz Ji meter shop at Plaza market can fix that in an hours time.
temp gauge malfunction is chronic issue on Khyber (aka Swift up to 1991).

[brownrose78]

@mustansir44
Check meter cluster, temp. sending unit, associated wiring; as far as i know you & your brother, you people can sort out these electrical diagnostics yourself too.

1 more thing, you can again recheck it during long drive after removing your recently installed T-valve (only for time being for testing purpose) because this is the only thing which you have added in your system. You can compare the difference.

Anyways, if it is radiator issue, then you can have 2 options:

1. Brass copper Models:
Brand "Loads" (i think they only have classical brass copper model)
conatct their Head office directly
http://www.loads-group.pk/head-office/

2. Alumunium:
Brand is something like Alwin or Allwin
I think they have presence perhaps in PECHS while i have also seen distributor or reseller near Plaza.

My opinion to you is only to go for new one instead of Kabuli/Used one. I have bought Aluminium reconditioned radiator (Pehaps of Vitz or Passo) from Khushaal Radiator, Tariq Road but not so much satisfied with the build quality.

You will find difference of opinion between selection of Aluminum versus Copper or Brass copper made radiators for exchanging better heat capacity being good conductor.

One pakwheeler @speedster_101 experimented Aluminium made with Big radiator fans(7 blade) etc. and seems quite satisfied with perfomance then.
You can refer details here:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/the-cost-of-radiator/413669/20

Do not neglect or delay in fixing vehicle's temperature as i have recently got damaged due to this temperature issue.

[sayedgulhassan]

Hello everyone
I recently moved from Islamabad to karachi, need help regarding auto parts shops in karachi.
I want to get my silencer dholki changed, get ignition coil of denso and back drums changed(kabuli/used)
Where can i get these things in karachi?
Have heard good reviews about plaza market but need someguidance regarding which shops to visit for these parts.
Btw my location is dha phase v and car is cultus carburetor.

[capsat]

you can take bykea or careem to Plaza autoparts market, roam around.
Prince centre opposite Preedy Police station at plaza auto parts market has plenty of Suzuki parts shop. Suzuki House Mr. Mohsin is trustworthy.

There are plenty of silencer shops in DHA 2 Car CHOR Bazar, Behind Total Station / near Honda workshop. be very cautious it is a automotive black market any car un attended, for long hours parts are stolen without trace.

[mustansir44]

Assalam Alaikum. I do not think temperature gauge is faulty as we have tested it vigorously. Few possible reasons as why the temperature gauge rose are:
1. after water change the car was first time driven for more than 5 kms.
2. After the incident I checked the water in radiator and it was not full and even reservoir bottle was empty.

Afterwards, We serviced the radiator and found no leaks or damage

[mustansir44]

I searched the market and did not find Allwin radiators. A shop owner told us that nobody stocks Allwin radiator anymore.

Also, I found 2 variants of Loads Radiator for Khyber:
1. Double channel Copper - 8400
2. Double channel Aluminum - Do not know price

Kindly suggest which one is better as aluminum conducts heat better but copper is more durable.

Also, please suggest should I also buy new fan and fan shroud with or re-install previous one as previous one is connected to relay blows sufficient air (I think).

urgent help will be appreciated.

[nnabeel]

Go for the copper one as this radiator can be repaired easily.

If ur previous fan is working fine then use the original one.
if not then go for newer fans as old fan may have become slow and rusty. Install the new fan in a way that it shouldnt mingle with things if some repair job required.

[saad2006]

I flushed my Khyber's radiator using the same radiator flush, It worked pretty well.
It had been quite a while since the coolant was changed or the cooling system was flushed so the old coolant was quite bad. Thankfully there were no leaks from the radiator although I had to replace the bottom radiator coolant pipe.

[brownrose78]

@mustansir44
In my opinion, if you are looking for LOADS brand, then buy directly from their Head office at Korangi/ Landhi

Cu (Copper) based are easily repairable by our roadside Radiator shops. This is the plus point of Cu based materials.

Aluminium based are new technology and are good in terms of heat exchanging which you will find in newer cars. As per roadside mechanics & Radiator shops, Al (Aluminum) are mostly fragile type as cost of repairing is high plus it takes special tools and time so young generation mechanics and radiator shop guys termed it as ir-repairable aka fragile type as they run away from hard work and find out replacement as easy & more profitable job than repairing)

@sayedgulhassan
Welcome to the City of Lights, Your works are classified in 3 different area so for all works at single location is Shah Faisal Automotive market near Airport where you will find several silencer shops for Dholki works, you can buy new ignition coil from there plus Kabuli as well as new back drums from them plus they will also buy your old used parts in exchange.
If you are looking these items for your Red Cultus, then you can also order Ignition coils of "Ultima" brand online and just get it installed from mechanic there.

There are other several markets in city and all have different rates as per gentry and class of surroundings approaching them so choose them as per your ease.

For these help plus any kind of help or work or suggestion in Karachi, you can pm/ inbox me anytime for any kind of assistance ( Free of cost my dear )

[sayedgulhassan]

Thank you for the warm welcome, but hopefully i would be getting my transfer back to islamabad in a month or 2.
I got my silencer work done from jail road, ignition coil is fine, just need to get kabuli/new back drums, but due to work and new city have decided to get them changed after moving back to islamabad.

[brownrose78]

@sayedgulhassan
Never go for Kabuli drums, buy new one.

Which car do you have brought here

[sayedgulhassan]

Okay...where can i get new drums from? For cultus carburetor

[capsat]

it has the same drums as the ravi & bolan. buy from any suzuki parts shop in your city.

[brownrose78]

@mustansir44
Have you activated your Heater system too by your A/C wala at the time of A/c installation or not connected?

How is Engine starting in cold weather?

@sayedgulhassan
What is update of your car? Have you found the required item or not sourced yet?

[sayedgulhassan]

Yes i got it.
Thanks for the guidance.