The AMG Hammer

Vintage and Classic Cars

qwertypoiu (qwertypoiu) 2009-10-25 04:35:00 +0600 #101

qwertypoiu (qwertypoiu) 2009-10-25 04:36:00 +0600 #102

qwertypoiu (qwertypoiu) 2009-10-25 04:36:00 +0600 #103

qwertypoiu (qwertypoiu) 2009-10-25 04:37:00 +0600 #104

taim00r (taim00r) 2009-10-25 06:25:00 +0600 #105

Nyce ride!!

Bilaltq (Bilaltq) 2009-10-25 06:41:00 +0600 #106

Now THAT is good. Nice pictures Adnan.

alvis (alvis) 2009-10-25 07:38:00 +0600 #107

qwertpiou

Strange car, dressed like an AMG, but is it? The engine is a standard M117, not the AMG 32 valver DOHC.

All the same, must be a thrill to drive with the weight reduction over a standard 560 SEC.

do give some more information if available.

qwertypoiu (qwertypoiu) 2009-10-25 08:06:00 +0600 #108

Alvis. unfortunately i dont have the eye to spot it but hope i soon be able to judge. that was just a random google image search for it here is the link of the page CLICK HERE

sami_voodoo (sami_voodoo) 2009-10-25 10:18:00 +0600 #109

Not really, all it takes is a while in front of the PC with google as your friend :P. Seriously though, if you generally compare power curves for NA and turbo vehicles, well tuned NA engines try to keep a high torque peak for revs as high revs as possible. While Turbo cars give you a huge slug in the bottom of the rev range and then hold on to it for a lower rev range than NA cars.

sami_voodoo (sami_voodoo) 2009-10-25 10:23:00 +0600 #110

Quoting from the add, the only reasons why the 2 valve might be better is that parts might be easier and cheaper to find and it might consume a bit less fuel, but if you've bought an AMG, would you care? The rims look like the ones on the Maybach Exelero concept.

alvis (alvis) 2009-10-25 11:47:00 +0600 #111

qwertpiou

Not to worry the keen eye will soon be there, nobody is born with it.

Sami

The write up from the link posted says it all

"The only drawback here is the lack of the 32-valve 6-liter AMG engine, though the seller claims the 2-valve 5.6 is actually better."

True the 32 valver AMg was a heavy maintenance engine and there are very few examples in prime shape but compared to the standard M 117 engine it was an altogether different ball game. I had a ride as a passenger in a 560 SEC Widebody a few years ago and the power of the engine was astounding, the 560 SEC is flat out at 260 km/hr but the 32 valver will still have enough grunt to push you into the seat at that speed. Tops for these widebodys was supposed to be official 286 km/hr but most said that 300 was more like it.

sami_voodoo (sami_voodoo) 2009-10-25 12:21:00 +0600 #112

alvis

300km/h in a car at that day and age must have been rather exciting. I know those cars were built like tanks, but still a saloon that does 300 km/h later is still a big achievement today almost 20 years later.

alvis (alvis) 2009-10-25 12:37:00 +0600 #113

Sami

The only thing that could hold these cars on the autobahns (the Hammer and the Widebody) were the Lotus Carltons, 4 doors and 186 MPH!! There was a public outcry when Lotus offered babyseats in the Carlton:P

sami_voodoo (sami_voodoo) 2009-10-25 14:16:00 +0600 #114

alvis

This should bring a giggle:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/240394/lexus_isf.html

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/235607/lexus_isf.html

Turbocharging goes a looong way in upsetting the power balance. Suddenly those manly, big, butch, grumbly V8s don't seem so manly at all...

RetardedBuddy (RetardedBuddy) 2009-10-25 14:34:00 +0600 #115

Seriously what good is a car if its limited? and what good is a car which isn't limited yet it can't supercede a 20 year old car when it comes to speed... |-)

The new cars are notoriously boring, whereas the oldies come and hit you in the face... I'll take one of these over any new car any day

musti10 (musti10) 2009-10-25 14:35:00 +0600 #116

Luv this Ride!!!!!!

sami_voodoo (sami_voodoo) 2009-10-25 15:46:00 +0600 #117

Technically, I wouldn't consider cars from the '80s to the '90s as oldies - but that's just me. The power that they put out was essentially the same as today's cars. The few differences that are rather marked are that the levels of body stiffness and safety are different, there's an inclusion of good ABS and traction control systems, better emission controls (now now, let's be reasonable boys :D) and luxuries.

I personally would take the body stiffness and the safety of ABS, because I know I'm not a superhuman. As fas as luxury is concerned, give me air conditioning and power steering and I'm happy. As for the top speed issue, it's more to do with drag and power than weight. That's why new cars aren't much better than old ones.

Bilaltq (Bilaltq) 2010-01-01 21:33:35 +0500 #118

Inside Line: AMG Hammer

Bilaltq (Bilaltq) 2010-01-01 21:38:10 +0500 #119

AMG stationery quotes a top speed for the Hammer of 190 mph. Actually, it says 'over' 190 mph

You gotta love those Germans. You just can't hate them...
"Ve're not sure of za top speed, but ve sink its von ninety"
"Really?"
"Aksholly over von ninety."

Carsrus (Carsrus) 2010-01-01 22:37:53 +0500 #120

They did the same thing with the Dauer's street legal Porsche 962. The "about 230mph" car was pulling over 250mph (H)