Toyota Vitz Engine 1KR-FE Rebuild is better than Half Assembly Swap

[rajaatta]

yes you are right i am seeing a lot of CVT equipped Toyota with this under fill issue causing a lot of trouble later on road.
and maintaining a troublesome CVT is a pain staking process. so i had water flush process to cool down the CVT Fluid temperature if some how we need to check it on hot vehicle some times vehicles arrive with 100C + fluid temperature on a normal drive and after cooling it down reveals that the transmission was under filled by 2-3 liter's resulting in abnormal temperature shoot out and bearings and belt grindings appear.
but here in pakistan every single person wants to diy on their vehicles and totally messes up and then starts to fight over........

[rajaatta]

boss what is your opinion on AMSOIL Motor oils as i am using them.
and what about their Trans Fluids?

[dwb1986]

@rajaatta @Xulfiqar
There is some unusual sound (something like engine noise) from gearbox of my vitz 2006 when i first time start it in the morning and it disappears soon after driving for a while. Is it a symptom of low gear oil? Also tell me what's the exact quantity of gear oil to be filled in vitz 2006 AT?
P.S: i got the gear oil changed recently. Bought a 4 litres can of toyota CVT-F. There is almost more than a litre still left in the bottle. The mechanic drained the oil by opening the chamber of gearbox and then servicing the filter, chamber and magnets by petrol as there was lot of carbon seen in there.

[Xulfiqar]

oh yes, DIY by neem hakeem and then thinking they are alexander (sikander-e-azam)

while infact they have damaged the system - sometimes beyond repair state. I sometimes see morons who filled wrong ATF in their autobox and now wonder why they are getting speed sensor issues - I just LOL at them.

AMSOIL products are okay for their purpose but too expensive sometimes. e.g. using Amsoil ATF in a regular cheap autobox is useless when its equally happy with the egg and potato dexron III available everywhere.

I can see it useful in an application where an HFM ATF is required and high temperatures will be subjected. However I personally use Citgo Quatrasyn and Citgo Mercon V - Quatrasyn never breaks down, I have had it tested after a vehicle had done 40K miles on it (mazda gearbox) and it still tested as virgin ATF. Its now close to 60K miles on the rebuilt box I overhauled and using the same Quatrasyn I filled it with. Cheaper than Amsoil too.

[rajaatta]

ok so far AMSOIL is a best oil to use if the expenses are not a problem thank you boss for your valuable suggestion.

[rajaatta]

seems to be underfill problem your transmission is suffering from low fluid oil at startup.
What Can i say 90 % Pan oil jobs are meessy due to mechanics dont had the knowledge of how to level the PAN Level type CVT's they cause the situation even more messy due to thier negligence. get it refilled by a professional Tec and your problem would be solved if their arent any damages done till now....'.

[dwb1986]

I am just confused about the way these mechanics check the transmission oil level by just opening up the drain hole a little and if the oil leaks they say the level is ok. I can't understand this logic. I mean the oil will definitely leak if you loosen drain hole a little bit. How could they just say that level is ok if oil leaks by loosening the drain nut a little bit?

[Xulfiqar]

That is the only way to test the oil level in that automatic, The extremely critical point to note is the oil temperature when the bolt is opened. Because when the oil gets hot it expands a lot.

This expansion is the same reason regular old automatic had a dipstick with cold and hot marks - the expanded oil sits as "higher level" in sump.

Now keeping above in mind, if you open the drain bolt on fully expanded ATF to check the oil level, you will drain close to a litre of it, this makes the gearbox oil level actually low because when it will be cool the oil level will be extremely low as the oil is now missing.

If you open the drain bolt at required temperature your level will be correct - Just follow what the manufacturer tells you - they built the gearbox,

[haseeb.basharat]

2014-16 TRANSMISSION CVT Fluid change - Corolla (K313).pdf (930.1 KB)

I checked cvt fluid level of my car by this way and will be doing next cvt oil change at home.

[bilal.dynamix]

I am going to have my 1KR-FE rebuild by Mr. Atta next week. Had an elaborate discussion with him after the diagnosis, he seemed to be extremely knowledgeable and for the first time in mechanic "realm", I had the feeling of dealing with a pro.
I was slightly tilted towards a swap but he recommended a rebuild would be the perfect solution. I will handover the car to him next Sunday and expecting to have it back by Thursday.
Would keep you all posted.... (y)

[capsat]

@rajaatta please share the progress and items / products brand used, Thank you if possible pictures of engine / in engine bay before & after rebuild.

[rajaatta]

Yes WilL do share with steps

[asim8444458]

Plesse suggest workshop and mechanic for vitz engine rebuilt , also share the shop where we can buy new oxygen sensor.

[pwuser153830458762]

I had the same issue , after rebuild knock was gone, it was at 40km/h when maintaining speed ligth foot , as soon as i hit more gas it was gone.

[dms664]

Yes WilL do share with steps

no updates boss

[rajaahmed96]

How much engine oil does Vitz 1000cc 1KRFE 2007 takes with oil filter?

[399.ak]

3.1L max.
3.0 is also fine.

[rajaahmed96]

Some say 3.6L with oil filter and some say 3.1L with filter for 1KR-FE.

[399.ak]

3.6L with oil filter

Overfilling is overkilling
Nah it's too much just check the owner manual. You will be convinced that it's max 3.1L.
FYI a Corolla 1.3 needs 3.5L.
Corolla 1.5 needs 3.7L.
So how come some stupids keep on pouring 3.6L in a tiny 1.0L engine.
Ap easily 3.0L use kre koi problem nhi hogi.

[rajaatta]

sorry fellows was out for some time