Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan

[ZNaqvi]

I forgot to add the early 70s celicas. By far, one of the most elegant coupes. The RA20/21 and TA22. The most desireable of these were with DOHC, twin carbs (solex) 1600cc's (2TG engines). One sees a few of them now botched up with 1C Diesels.

[romano]

I agree with ZNaqvi on the Corollas. The only one decent condition in Isb Rwp is the orange coupe belonging to Abid at EGS computer systems. He also has the cleanest Mark 1 Cortina, in red, both beautifully maintained.

[qasimshah]

@romano:
Abid Abrar...son of Gen Abrar hussain is a family friend of 3 decades.
lives 2 mins(by foot) from our place in westridge, pindi. have grown up watching it and riding in it at times wen i was little:)
Znaqvi's is my brother and has owned the same model corolla as abid...in original but albieght a bit sad condition.

regarding the japanese classics, celicas, corollas mazdas nissans etc...no doubt now hav a fan following in australia and south africa as well as european countries and now pakistan
i hav the previlige of now owning a humble piece of (nearly) the same classic genre
Mohsin bhai and a few know of it

its lovely to talk abt these cars that have now becom a piece of our national history as Pakistan is a nation driven by japanese cars(now)

[mohsinikram]

@qasim / Sami / romano etc.

how about the '74 Toyota Crown Coupe, it was quite a good looker. I used to see one in Karachi in red color and with a diesel engine...not a common site those cars

[dare_devil]

@mohsin ikram
iz there any 74 crown 2 door in ur sight now...em interested in buying.

[hassaanafzal]

@ ALL
i am regular reader of this thread & now i m planning 2 get 1 of the classics if u could help it will be highly appreciated.
the car i am taliking about is Mercedes-Benz W108
does that worth restoring it.
the car dosent have orignal petrol engine it has diesel 2200cc benz engine. body looks fine interior needs attention. the guy is asking me 130000 for it. as i dont have the orignal pics but i m posting sme frm net

[sami_voodoo]

An old crown coupe with a 1JZ-GTE would be amatch made in heaven. The ultimate Q-car! And it's not as if it's difficult to do either actually. The engine bay is big enough to swallow even the delectable 1UZ-FE 4.0 32V V8 (which newer versions of the Crown had from the factory). This particular engine is sooo smooth, that you can balance a coin on edge on the engine plenum and rev it to the limiter, and the coin wouldn't drop!

[romano]

@Hasaan, if its a clean W108, at one lak thirty, go for it. Make sure papers and taxes are in order. Engines can be sorted later. Our infrequent visitor Jamaal knows all about them, as does Alvis, and i am sure they will be happy to help. Good luck with your project!

[mohsinikram]

@dare_devil
no - but u look for one as its a good classic to have.

@hassan
I agree with romano. Go for it. W108's are great looking cars.

@sami_voodoo
I really admre your knowlege of engines.....

[spectra]

@sami
are you serious about that coin thing on 1UZ. Also what are your comments about a 1G-GZE. Its lying with a fellow kabariya. The code tells that its supercharged with a wide angle valve head.

[sami_voodoo]

MohsinIkram

It's nothing really :$, it's my life now :p!!!!

Spectra

Here's a video to prove it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AHsx9G_oQ0U

You can just hear the limiter at 18 secinds in the video. It's a "soft" limiter, thus it doesn't sputter or crackle. Fuel injectors are cut off cylinder by cylinder, not all at once.

I think this engine was available with the Crown. The one that Adil (Allah Jannat naseeb karay) had. If it's in good nick and you have a car to fit it into, buy it, or recommend it. It's 160+ BHP out of the box. What gearbox does it have? Does it have the ECU as well?

[sami_voodoo]

ZNaqvi

You've got good taste in Japanese sports cars. Have you heard of the original Mitsubishi Galant GTO? Or the Sapporo?

The hottest GTO came with a 2.0 Litre engine if I remember correctly.

My father actually drove one in the late '70s as a test drive. He wanted a family saloon, but he has a sports-car streak in him (which was why he tested an FB RX7 as well, but he couldn't justify it being a family car at all) so he tried the GS model with 5-speed and a 2.0 engine.

He didn't like it too much as it was skittish on rough roads (probably over-inflated tyres), and it was too small for a family. Which was why he bought the Galant Sigma GS. 1.6, twin two-barrel Nikki carbs, and 5-speed. This was back in '78.

Anyhow, here's the GTO:

And the Sapporo:

[spectra]

Gearbox is auto and ecu is present along with full wiring loom. It is from a crown. I have recommended it to someone

[romano]

We have a GTO in Karachi...with an American V8 squeezed into the engine bay...

[ZNaqvi]

@sami_voodoo
Thanks for the compliment. My liking for certian japanese classics is because of the their practicality of owning and using.

GTOs and Sapporo's are beautiful cars, but very rare, even in countires where they were sold. I have not seen any in Pakistan.

@ hasaanafzal
W108s are timeless classics. The coupes and convertibles are the most sought after. I would however suggest that they do have a parts availablity problem in pakistan, and therefore for a good restoration, you may not be able to find some things. For example, the Bumpers and chrome strips on the sides are the most difficult to find. Also, they cost a lot if imported from Germany or US.

The interior of the W108s is relatively simple to restore. If memory serves right, M/s Noor & Sons, off Murree Road in Rawalpindi had quite a lot of the original headlining and seat covering material for the 60-70s mercs. I beleive that the gentleman is deceased now, and hs sons run the shop. You will have to find out if they still have the material. Also, make sure that the wooden parts of the interior are all complete. If they are, it is just a matter of having the wood rubbed and polished.

@Mohsinikram / romano / all
Saqib Mawaz used to drive an immaculate silver W108 Coupe, which was owned by his father, Brig Gul Mawaz Khan. It had a prancing horse in place of the mercedes emblem on the radiator. I used to see it a lot in the 80s and early 90s in the Pindi polo club (race course ground). Havent seen it for quite a while? does anybody know where it is now?

[romano]

There is just one silver MB coupe that is seen here, so its probably the same one. I believe its with a car collector on Margala Road (not Mujahid Zafar). Rarely seen on road though... which seems to be the fate of most cars in the clutches of a particular type of 'collector' Dare I use the H word again?

[mohsinikram]

@sami
I mentioned about the GTO in Karachi earlier in this thread. My friend and a car enthusiast has one from new. his driver used to pick him up from school in it and sometimes I would get a drop too. That was my first experience of looking at the RPM meter and was fascinated the way it went up so fast....I somehow related that with the speed of the car (how stupid?). He still has the car but he has put a massive V8 in it. I don't know which one. I 'll post a pic as soon as I see it next.

@romano
the silver MB coupe that you saw was brought to Pindi by Tauqeer Awan of Hajvairy Airline. He sold the car some years ago. This is not the car that znaqvi is talking about. I had heard of that one too with a prancing horse mascot. This silver MB was a Karachi car and my friend Ogey Shah bought it for Rs.85,000/- and took it to Lahore where it was restored. I had posted it's pic earlier in this thread.

[hassaanafzal]

I thank all of u 4 ur views on MB w108
can anybody help me 2 find the headlight (left side)

[drnagi68]

Mohsin Sb,
That silver Merc was restored in lahore by OG Shah elder brother,Mashood Shah,who is my friend.We had spent a lots of time in workshops in Lahore in our medical college days in 88-90.That car was immacutaly restored and was a lovely machine.People use to look at us when shah used to take us out for a spin.In those days people use to know each other in lahore.This car was sold for 675000, and recently i was taking to Shah ,they have offered 2 million to that guy,but he has refused to sell it
Dr.Daniyal

[Mustafa01]

for Mohsin bhai, can you kindly tell me from where I can get my Mercedes 220S bumpers properly chromed, thanks a lot. I'am alo interested in buying a Mini Cooper or Austin Mini, which ever is available in original condition, non altered!!!!