VITZ 2012 I love this car but should i sell it?

[pwuser151461545062]

AOA everyone.

I own a vitz 2012 model, bought it in 2014, which has a couple of issues which are worrying me.

1. I tune my car almost every 40 days to reduce the vibrations and to fix my fuel efficiency.
2. Ride was getting very bumpy, a minor puddle would give a worrysome shock to the steering wheel +
   on full turn and then acceleration I used to hear a "karra karra" sound from the axel which you normally wouldve heard in a taxi.

What I've been doing:
1A oil change every 4-5k kilometers Caltex original 10-30w
1B Tuning;
Spark plug clean
Air filter clean
throttle body service
CAT converter service
(every 40 days)

CAT service with Acid
Fuel filter service
(every 2-3months...bcuz sometimes the normal tuning would only work for 15 days)

2) I took it to a mechanic he said "the tire rod brushes have been F*d up"
fixed it...now the noise has been reduced, the steering wheel jerks have been reduced but the steering wheel has gotten very hard and the turn noise is still there.
the car is just 72k driven...im open to suggestions otherwise I have no option other than to sell it.

Thank you in advance.

[salmanbucha]

@capsat

[Khurram26]

Brother I hope you will not mind my blunt opinion.
The thing is, Vitz in particular drives and feels like it was manufactured in China rather than being a product of Toyota. The engine noise, vibrations and harshness are too much to ignore and to top it the car has no real power just drags along with the loudest drone of CVT possible. And all that at such a high price!!! No wonder why new model Vitz has very very low resale value.
The problems you mentioned are inherent in all these cars so no matter what you do there will be no solution. You will just keep going back and forth to the mechanic. I'm not saying that it will stop running if you don't go to the mechanic, I'm saying that the frequency of tuning and cat cleaning etc that you are maintaining is too high and not normal for other cars.

I'm guessing that you must have paid over 14 lac for this car. It would be much better to buy a Pakistani corolla or City for that amount. If you can get hold of a low mileage car, I promise that you will never have to think about any noise or engine vibration or any tuning except at recommended intervals.
Bring peace to yourself. Just get rid of it.
I'm sorry. What's there to love in Vitz ?

[shaikhrulez]

Wasalam,

I got 2006 Vitz, bought in 2013 and since last year I am facing more or less similar issues which you have mentioned. Prior to that, my Vitz did justice with my purchase Alhamdulillah.

I have driven more than 50K since I bought currently ODO meter is at 88K, took it on longer routes couple of times and Alhamdulillah it never disappoints me.

However, there are some instinct problems with Vitz such as loud engine noise, low fuel average and Vibration.

On suggestion of @capsat I went to a mechanic in Karachi, who has resolved much of the problems I was facing, the annoying noise from Steering Rack has gone after I got it replaced last week.

The vibration was one big concern for me, I got my car tuned couple of times, did throttle body service, changed spark plug but all this couldn't help until recently I got its fuel injector cleaned, and now Alhamdulillah no vibration at all.

There are still 2 problems, firstly fuel average is very pathetic I am getting 7.5 to 8 km per liter in city without AC looking to figure out this now.

Secondly, there is a lot of cabin noise when I drive my car on bumpy road, the dashboard and seats is making rattling noise, don't know how it fix this. Should I get it detailed (interior cleaning)? any help in this would be appreciated.

@pwuser151461545062 Contact me if you need number of the mechanic.

[rkbladex]

Wasalam,

I got 2006 Vitz, bought in 2013 and since last year I am facing more or less similar issues which you have mentioned. Prior to that, my Vitz did justice with my purchase Alhamdulillah.

I have driven more than 50K since I bought currently ODO meter is at 88K, took it on longer routes couple of times and Alhamdulillah it never disappoints me.

However, there are some instinct problems with Vitz such as loud engine noise, low fuel average and Vibration.

On suggestion of @capsat I went to a mechanic in Karachi, who has resolved much of the problems I was facing, the annoying noise from Steering Rack has gone after I got it replaced last week.

The vibration was one big concern for me, I got my car tuned couple of times, did throttle body service, changed spark plug but all this couldn't help until recently I got its fuel injector cleaned, and now Alhamdulillah no vibration at all.

There are still 2 problems, firstly fuel average is very pathetic I am getting 7.5 to 8 km per liter in city without AC looking to figure out this now.

Secondly, there is a lot of cabin noise when I drive my car on bumpy road, the dashboard and seats is making rattling noise, don't know how it fix this. Should I get it detailed (interior cleaning)? any help in this would be appreciated.

@pwuser151461545062 Contact me if you need number of the mechanic.

Please PM me the no. of mechanic as i am also having same issue in my vitz too.

-RKBladeX

[pwuser151461545062]

@Khurram26 brother the thing is coincidentally two there are two almost similar vitz in my family and they are perfectly fine.
1 is 2011 almost 110000km driven...smooth drive, tuning after 3months, no issue with the steering wheel.
2nD is 2012 model almost 35k driven and that is woring fine as well only requires oil change that's all.

I love vitz because it's a very sexy hatchback and at the same time very practical for a small family...but now the issues are outweighing the beauty of the car.
When I first bought it the handling the power the steering I loved it but now it's getting worse week by week.
Bought it for 14lac back then you're right.

[shaikhrulez]

Please PM me the no. of mechanic as i am also having same issue in my vitz too.

-RKBladeX

Please check your inbox

[pwuser151461545062]

Brother I'm from KPK. No idea about the mechanics in Karahi.
Sorry.

[ashbal]

About fuel efficency i have noticed its one pure luck what he would be getting from vitz...there are peoplewho claim they are getting 14 in city and there are people who complain they get 8 in city
ABout the second thing that surely the axels because theshock you are refring to can come due to worn out inner axels also the vibration...about the kurr kurr sound on turns its the outer axels:...but the bibration that is due to inner axels wont be there on idle....idle vibration is mainly due to worn out engine mounts specially the oil mount...one more reason is low rpm but as you said you tune it up so regularly(STOP DOING IT) this shouldnt be an issue
Conclusion is you should change your axels with complete genuine axels from used parts market with their orignal boot clips and orignal boot clips will mean orignal grease and orignal boots and these axels dont go anywhere for upto 5 years unless you are able to tear the boot and grease ets out
Also check for worn out mounts you can check it yourself by looking at the mounts the rubber area for cracks....these are the causes and their solutions for the issues you mentioned
P.s you can also check the bushes yourself by looking for cracks in them but mostly these shocks if bushes are the reason they are due to bushes of the chimta

[nawan885]

Well guys...I don't know whether cars in discussion were already f up before being dispatched to pk...I got vitz 2012 purchased in 2015...auction sheet verified ....45000 km then. Now 75000km...no issues faced like this ...No tuning till now of any kind...Only got this oil change original Toyota by 3S...everything is fine..Good pic..avg f 16kmpl...absolutely satisfied...

[Khurram26]

Once car problems start they only get worse with time because our mechanics when they touch something it is doomed.
I was once getting oil changed in my car when my guy was working simultaneously on a Vitz 2008. The complaint in that car was vibration. He unbolted the throttle body and sent it for drilling a hole in the throttle shutter. I was shocked... asked him why he would do this. He said, this is the only way in which engine idle can be stabilized. Now it won't vibrate.
I thought to myself.. sure... why would it vibrate now... The manufacturer was stupid not to have drilled that hole!!!
That's unfortunately our expert lot.
Anyway whatever decision you take, I wish you best of luck in that.
Take care

[ahsanonline]

Brother WHY on earth are you doing stuff every 15-40 days???

Acid in catcon, might as well throw it in trash.
Check each system scientifically, bring things back to factory specs, and you'll be fine.

Hope your vehicle still has its thermostat installed.

[pwuser151461545062]

Thanks @ashbal! JazakAllah!
Will surely look into.the axel.
The thing is if I don't tune my car regularly (very 40days) the fuel consumption increases, the power of the acceleration decreases, the acceleration response diminishes and the vibrations on idle becomes unbearable.
There's nothing I else I can think of doing.

[pwuser151461545062]

You're right. There's no other explanation that would make sense for these issues

[pwuser151461545062]

Thanks @Khurram26!
I've actually been through that myself.
A mechanic had made a small 2mm hole in the throttle body. Once after a routine tuning while my mech was checking the gpu and basic rpm etc he noticed high rpm on idle around 900 on rest. While the ideal for vitz is around 700-750rpm on rest.
He then welded the hole. Rpm got down. Economy went better...for a week at least. Lol

[pwuser151461545062]

Systems are checked every time I go for tuning....after the tuning a whole checkup is carried out to check for any errors in gpu. Nothing every shows up.

[Nabeel_Ali]

Just tell me one thing... did you buy the car with verified auction sheet?

[pwuser151461545062]

@Nabeel_Ali I'm afraid I did not. Was too underknowledge at that time.
Besides the car was already registered.

[salmanbucha]

Happens to all people .even me just an year ago before coming to this forum I had no knowledge about auction sheet

[pwuser151461545062]

Exactly. My brother had a similar vitz 110000km driven but a 100 times better than my car engine wise and steering suspension wise.