Engine Oil Grade Selection

[anon35615524]

the dealership insisted to pour this grade oil

Did they give any logical reason for it?

[dmushtaq560]

yes i will once warranty is over, when i went for maintenence i asked the dealership about taglon x which is 5w30 but they insisted to get petron plus 10w30 as they said this is the recommended oil for this mileage.

[saqibhassan95]

10w30 as they said this is the recommended oil for this mileage

This issue is discussed earlier, read above posts
Increasing viscosity with mileage, it's just a myth

[dmushtaq560]

They reasons they gave was that it taglonx was more expensive than petronplus also i asked with another mechanic in the workshop of the dealership and he also said the same to go for petronplus 10w30.

[anon35615524]

this is the recommended oil for this mileage.

INNA LILLAHI WAINNA ELAIHI RAJEUUN...

[anon35615524]

taglonx was more expensive than petronplus

So what dear brother? Didn't you say k "paisay mainay dainay hain, aapnay nai! Acha wala oil daalein, aur recommended engine oil grade b!"

[capsat]

read this in detail & get over all myths

[dmushtaq560]

Like i said i told them as a matter of fact i had made up my mind to get 5w30 engine oil but The sales manager and the people in the workshop insisted to go for 10w30 , im not facing any problems and i find this oil better then previous one which was taglon 5w50 the engine used to rattle on coldstartups.

[dmushtaq560]

Well that is on the part of toyota itself as i also saw a chart there indicating oil grades for specific mileage and yes for my cars mileage petronplus was the recommended oil .

[Xulfiqar]

in your wisdom and according to that cart.

what oil would they recommend at 300,000 and 400,000 kms?

[saqibhassan95]

what oil would they recommend at 300,000 and 400,000 kms?

Complete Engine Overhauling and again 5w30 from start then 10w40 and so on

[dmushtaq560]

I wont care what they would reccomend at that time as i would have sold the car a long time ago and dont you think at that mileage engine is replaced ? i will be surprised if the car is in onepiece at that mileage, nobody keeps a car that much driven as your quoting here. I dont want to spend my time with the dealership guys at what grade oil to pour if two or three mechanics are reccomending the same grade then be it, honda puts 5w30 oil in their cars without anyone telling them what to do and if toyota doesnt do that and gives different grades for different mileage then thats there own thinking after all its a corolla people will run it on cooking oil and still it would run what do you expect out of a workhorse used to mint money? people use it as a donkey and here we are talking about oilgrade which the official dealership is pouring its not a exotic or luxurysedan that it would breakdown or something . Thats the fualt of toyota if the oil they are reccomending according to you is the wrong grade and even it is ive come to the conclusion its a corolla and no matter what oil we put its going to run and in my case it fine.

[Xulfiqar]

I personally drive a camry with 325,000 kms. It has been filled with 5W30 since it rolled off its factory in canada, in 2002 it was API SL, and now it uses API SN, but the same cheap 5w30 and cheap oil filter.

more than 60% of toyota vehicles on the road today globally are more than 150K kms. This is literally toyotas selling point that they work for a very long time.

My point is that The stupid idiotic chart toyota are propping up in dealerships is nothing more than lunatic nonsense.

[dmushtaq560]

You may be right about the oilgrades toyota dealership are recommending people but what can one do instead of arguing with them, there is more to life then arguing over a useless topic which is oilgrade and like i said afterall its a toyota its gonna work nomatter what you pour in it .I have only experienced this with toyota dealerships else honda pours 5w30 in its cars without anyone insisting so its the responsibility of the dealership to give correct grade oil as at the end of the day a person goes to a dealership to keep warranty intact and expects trustworthy work and if the dealership is insisting on a certain oil then one has to trust them as afterall he also has an option to goto a road side mechanic but he doesnt and trusts the official dealership and if the company is really giving the wrong grade then its the dealership which is at fault.

[Xulfiqar]

True,

but the toyota dealership is busy filling triple thick oil in the engines and then denying warranty claims due to their failures and when its under warranty the cheap minimum wage service writers there try to push emtpy threats of "warranty kensill kardein ge"

Its a comical cartoon house there. So its best to use the original manufacturer as recommendation, not the franchise.

I personally find it amazingly comical that a toyota dealership in a 3rd world country has nothing more to push than a selection of engine oils. Ive been to a lot of countries and almost all of them literally use a hose reel connected to a 1500 gallon tote (tank) where they pull the oil from (which is the right oil anyway) - Not a single one sells mini containers of 4 or 5L

[anon35615524]

this oil better then previous one which was taglon 5w50 the engine used to rattle on coldstartups.

Of course 10w-30 is much better, and another recommended engine oil grade, than that 5w-50.

i also saw a chart there indicating oil grades for specific mileage

A similar chart is also there on https://shell.pakwheels.com/generic-recommender , but it can not be followed blindly.

Most recommend to switch to thick engine oil grades, when vehicle is high on odo / high on age (whichever comes first), but its just speculation.

If an engine, let's say 2NZ-FE in PKDM Toyota Corolla requires 5w-30 / 10w-30 (Source: http://mywikimotors.com/toyota-2nz/ ), the car is brand new, you start pouring 5w-30 since day 01, the oil is preferably fully synthetic, from some reputed brand, and original, you change oil and filter after regular, OEM recommended drain intervals; then even if you drive for 2 lac + Kms, it will not require switching to thick oil (unless / until engine had been severely abused).

[mariah190282]

I have never heard of anything like that. One thing that I heard is that when your engine is new you should use the recommended oil and after 100k killo you should use a little heavy engine oil. I have heard that it make the sound better.

[Xulfiqar]

hmm

you heard wrong, There are hundreds of thousands of fords, chevys, toyotas etc that have done half million miles on their own cheap 5w20 or 5w30 recommended oils

[anon35615524]

after 100k killo you should use a little heavy engine oil.

Sister these are all myths, with no scientific explanation.

have heard that it make the sound better.

Less sound, or no sound does not mean that engine is working fine. It means that engine is struggling with the thick oil which has been poured, and is not comfortable to provide the required power and torque.

[dms664]

they will recommend 75w90 gear oil as engine oil at that mileage