My father's 2013 Honda Civic VTI oriel prosmatec with navigation

[thetigerzzz]

Masha allah

[mhaderaziz_official]

Didn't get mine delivered yet but toyota claim it to be 12.3 with ac with in city.

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And did they tell you about highway fuel economy with AC?

[omar_575]

And did they tell you about highway fuel economy with AC?

It's around 14 - 16 km/l on the motorway. It comes down to 11-12 km/l in the kallar kahar area.
So overall 13 km/l with a speed of 125-130 km/hr on the motorway.

In the city, it gives me 11-12 km/l.

Driving styles vary. This is what me and my fathers driving styles gets us, and we accelerate hard quite often

Overall city driving ranges from 11-15 km/l

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[omar_575]

I just found out something very shocking!

i went to get my grandfathers 7th gen civic tuned from my local honda dealership and there i saw atleast 3 9th gen civics parked with their engines ruined. The mechanics told me that the "air box" which is located at the level of the headlights of the 7th gen (pic attached, "air box" encircled) is located at the level of the fog lights in the 9th gen.

The mechanics very strictly asked me NOT to drive in flooded areas

[omar_575]

here's a pic of a 5000 km driven 9th gen with a blown engine and water in the interior.

apparently the water enters the "air box" and then goes into the main engine block ruining the con rods and pistons. the mechanics have to replace it all

[Huzaifa_Khalid]

That's ****!
Honda can't design a engine?
Come on yar! We can't drive our cars In flooded areas? Iss say to behtar banda CD 70 lay ley.. :S

[ibadaslam872]

here's a pic of a 5000 km driven 9th gen with a blown engine and water in the interior.

apparently the water enters the "air box" and then goes into the main engine block ruining the con rods and pistons. the mechanics have to replace it all

Isn't there anyway to relocate the pipe? You should get some jugaar(modification) done to yyour car aswell.

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[mitthu]

I just found out something very shocking!

i went to get my grandfathers 7th gen civic tuned from my local honda dealership and there i saw atleast 3 9th gen civics parked with their engines ruined. The mechanics told me that the "air box" which is located at the level of the headlights of the 7th gen (pic attached, "air box" encircled) is located at the level of the fog lights in the 9th gen.

The mechanics very strictly asked me NOT to drive in flooded areas

bro first of all congrats on getting ur hands on 9th gen prosmatec and am big fan of your reviews .. plus being a silent viewer of ur thread bro i think ur mechanic info regarding "air box" located at level of fog lights is kinda incorrect becuz in my 9th gen air box is located right next to its left side battery location and goes downwards from there and comes back on top end right next in between battery and fuse box .. theres also a cover on top of it to close the mouth of air box .. check below pics and correct me if am wrong

[omar_575]

bro first of all congrats on getting ur hands on 9th gen prosmatec and am big fan of your reviews .. plus being a silent viewer of ur thread bro i think ur mechanic info regarding "air box" located at level of fog lights is kinda incorrect becuz in my 9th gen air box is located right next to its left side battery location and goes downwards from there and comes back on top end right next in between battery and fuse box .. theres also a cover on top of it to close the mouth of air box .. check below pics and correct me if am wrong

thank you for correcting me.i knew it wouldn't be possible.
however how can you explain the fact that 3 9th gen cars are parked at honda city sales with their engines ruined?

[omar_575]

Isn't there anyway to relocate the pipe? You should get some jugaar(modification) done to yyour car aswell.

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we dont use the civic in floods (which occur once a year for a day or two on the routes we travel on). instead we use our 2010 swift (https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/141615-my-experience-new-swift-13) have a look at posts 241 and 242 on this thread

[Muzammil73]

thank you for correcting me.i knew it wouldn't be possible.
however how can you explain the fact that 3 9th gen cars are parked at honda city sales with their engines ruined?

It maybe due to water entering through the Exhaust or something like this.

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[faiz.aslam.121]

There's a normal way and an insane way to drive in rain.

Normal way- Enter a big puddle of water slowly, because you love your car. It will keep water out/away from the most vital parts in the car.
Idiotic way- You either borrowed the car, rented it or like to claim Warranty / Insurance, so you can boast about it after- Not giving a chit in other words.

Common sense plays a big part as well- Normal passenger cars cannot drive in 4-5 ft of water ( someone confirm that ).

[omar_575]

There's a normal way and an insane way to drive in rain.

Normal way- Enter a big puddle of water slowly, because you love your car. It will keep water out/away from the most vital parts in the car.
Idiotic way- You either borrowed the car, rented it or like to claim Warranty / Insurance, so you can boast about it after- Not giving a chit in other words.

Common sense plays a big part as well- Normal passenger cars cannot drive in 4-5 ft of water ( someone confirm that ).

i quite agree.. this was the scene infront of my house: posts 241-242(https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/141615-my-experience-new-swift-13).. saw a jaguar XJ ,toyota corolla, suzuki baleno, suzuki dabba, mehrans breakdown..
what worries me is the hondas mechanics strictly saying that i should not take my 9th gen out in such water whereas the 7th gen and swift are safe.

[458_Italia]

bro first of all congrats on getting ur hands on 9th gen prosmatec and am big fan of your reviews .. plus being a silent viewer of ur thread bro i think ur mechanic info regarding "air box" located at level of fog lights is kinda incorrect becuz in my 9th gen air box is located right next to its left side battery location and goes downwards from there and comes back on top end right next in between battery and fuse box .. theres also a cover on top of it to close the mouth of air box .. check below pics and correct me if am wrong

I too visited honda point yesterday and came to see abt 7-8 cars (8th gen & 9th gen) parked with their engines being overhauled.. The picture you are showing is probably not the point from where the air gets sucked in.. If you look closesly theres a pipe going down from the air filter box and the opening is somewhere in the bumber... Thats the point frm where the water gets sucked in.. Honda workers told to remove that big outer pipe (leading down frm air box) incase u have to go in somewhat deep water.. I think its better not to take ur car out in such conditions plus insurance wont b covering anythng of such sort either.

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[Haroon_Tarar]

It is a known problem in civic especially 2007-2012 models.
The air filter box has a pipe which goes downwards till about the center of ur tyre. The pipe sucks water from there.
To save your car engine, it is recommended to cut it a bit to avoid water being sucked.

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[458_Italia]

It is a known problem in civic especially 2007-2012 models.
The air filter box has a pipe which goes downwards till about the center of ur tyre. The pipe sucks water from there.
To save your car engine, it is recommended to cut it a bit to avoid water being sucked.

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Precisely.. Or to remove it altogether if fir some reason you have to take ur care thru deep water.

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[wasifhameed]

Precisely.. Or to remove it altogether if fir some reason you have to take ur care thru deep water.

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Please check out post #3082 here: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/wheels-pakistan/196419-honda-civic-2013-pakistan-launch-155

[irfansiddique]

I guess the reason behind putting an intake inlet there is to have cold air and avoid engine heated hot air for better combustion.

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[typeN]

i am silent observer of your thread and its very informative bravo. lovely car M.A well i wanted to share my seeing as well. i too saw two civics less then 3000 km driven cars with their engine opened i mean the whole engine was out. the mechanic hesitated to tell me the details but saidpani ka koi masla hai` . what if there really is a common problem in this specific gen ?

[affananwar200]

here's a pic of a 5000 km driven 9th gen with a blown engine and water in the interior.

apparently the water enters the "air box" and then goes into the main engine block ruining the con rods and pistons. the mechanics have to replace it all

Damn you HONDA !!! I'm seriously in the mood of saying " Go Honda Go"