Toyota Belta Owners & Fan Club

[syed_ijaz]

Dear its advisable to change PCV after 35000-40000 km and you can clean you PCV after every 10000kms with crab cleaner to increase its life .if your car reducing engine oil then its clar its engine is weak and need overhauling. to extend life you can use zic hiflow .or can you STP additive to reduce smoke .

[syed_ijaz]

no issue you can go with it

[bmuqtadir]

i have already used Abro' ssmoke stop .. not much benefit
can try stp next time

[bmuqtadir]

agreed thanks

[taha-alwi99]

Salaam guys
I am purchasing betla 2009 model registered in 2012, 1000CC
Engine has been changed of this car as previous owner was using cng so after some time he changed the engine and now this engine is completely driven on petrol
should i purchase this car? as some people are saying that belta is not good and does not have good reviews?

[Vaqas1]

Hello Belta Fans,

I am thinking of buying belta in good condition. I am not sure about 1000cc or 1300cc some says vitz and belta curb weight is same and I think vitz does ok with 1L engine. What should be a realistic price of under 100k driven belta?

Other options I have is 08 city or 10 corolla.

[bmuqtadir]

Get it checked by trustworthy and capable mechanic ... any car this old it all depends on how individual vehicle was kept ... a belta in good condition is a very good car .. ride is soft and comfortable and interior is very quiet unlike local cars of similar vintage

[taha-alwi99]

just bought a belta last week
2009/2012
93,000 KM driven
Pearl white color 3 parts touch up
850,000 PKR
car is in good condition overall but is asking for tuning as the previous owner kept it very rough.. i went to the mechanic he said engine and gears are in good condition but one foundation needs to be replaced and complete wiring needs to be changed along with throthle body so in total it will cost around 10k-12k

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[molvi82]

Any feedback on the proposed actions you took? Have you moved on with replacing the engine? Awaiting your response.

[bmuqtadir]

havent done anything cuz busy otherwise
checking spark plugs regularly myself, there is only oil on the threads of one plug
the car almost refuses to cross 90 now
there is not much consumtion of oil ... maybe 200-250ml after 2200 km

[molvi82]

ASA everyone.

URGENT HELP & ADVISE NEEDED. I have a 1.0 1KR-fe 2010 Belta with original 68,000km on it. I was out and the car was not in use for a good 7 months with a last oil change in Jan'18.

Now I started using it as a second car again. Oil light popped up on a short drive and it scared me. I checked oil gauge and it seemed fine. Took it to a mechanic (a good friend uses him in Karachi FB Area). We opened up the top cover and it had loads of sludge in it......see pictures.

Mechanic suggested that oil pump is choked, and may need to be replaced. However the recommendation and action we took was to completely wash top n bottom of engine with kerosene oil, minus the head/ block and ring pistons etc part as that would mean an engine over haul. Yesterday that was done. Oil pump and its filter cleaned with Liqui Moly and then installed back. The Oil plug was also cleaned. Pictures below:

Above activity only helped reduce noise and some minute vibration. However the oil light is still constantly on. Mechanic packed the engine and returned me the car saying that we either have to completely open and clean the engine or Replace it. If we run the car like this, it may result in engine seizure.

Whats your suggestion? Way forward I should take? Replace engine with 1.3 (as recommended) or get it over hauled? or is there a better diagnosis and remedy. Car is with me standing in garage. Its something i want to retain for a good 2-3 years from now. Its a overall good condition car.

[imrankhanmsb]

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[bmuqtadir]

did you check with obd2 scanner why error is appearing ?
which oil were you using ?

[molvi82]

THe mechanic did mention that the oil light is due to mechanical flaw, the scanner will not eliminate this. However. I did a hard reset by disconnecting battery terminals and left it for a good 10-15 minutes n then connected it, restarted the car and kept it on idle run for 10 minutes and the light did not come.

Last two oil changes were Shell HX-5. After engine opening as per pics, two local oils were used to flush out kerosene oil and any otehr deposits inside. Have not restarted car after that. Its been 2 days.

[bmuqtadir]

I guess you should definitely change the oil you are using and the place where you were getting your oil changed. Oil generally doesnt become such a sludge if its of reasonable quality and being changed at regular intervals.
You can try using a fully synthetic thin oil like 0w-20 of caltex to clean your engine from the inside .. like run it for 800-1000km and change it .. fully synethic oils have detergents inside them to keep the engine clean. Beware you would run the risk of removing sludge that was keeping all the old worn parts like piston rings sealed and aggressively trying to clean the engine might mean it might start drinking engine oil.

In my opinion using a fully synthetic oil is a safer option then using an engine flush or ATF etc
If there is no light after reset then all must be good ?

[abid110]

The level of sludge is too high. I suspect car is always changed with counterfeit fake oils. Your oil ki jaali which is in the oil pan seems too too choked that is why oil is not being pumped up.

[molvi82]

Mechanic recommending that we open head and ring pistons and clean them as that is the only part left uncleaned.

[molvi82]

after cleaning and reinstalling as per pictures, Oil pump was working properly and showing desired pressure. However it stopped throwing oil after a few minutes of idle run. This means there is blockage in flow through the head block. That is where we are confused about opening entire engine or not.

[Vaqas1]

Hmm this much sludge its hard to beleive on modern engine on newer oil.

I will suggest get new engine assembly of same engine. Don't go for 1.3 unless you have some one who can properly wire it and eliminate all codes.

Rebuilding might work as well But I have experience the local rebuild engines never able to give same level of power and smoothness that these less used not repaired engines give.